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In the week since a Chinese AI model called DeepSeek became a household name, a dizzying number of narratives have gained steam, with varying degrees of accuracy [...] perhaps most notably, that DeepSeek’s new, more efficient approach means AI might not need to guzzle the massive amounts of energy that it currently does.

The latter notion is misleading, and new numbers shared with MIT Technology Review help show why. These early figures—based on the performance of one of DeepSeek’s smaller models on a small number of prompts—suggest it could be more energy intensive when generating responses than the equivalent-size model from Meta. The issue might be that the energy it saves in training is offset by its more intensive techniques for answering questions, and by the long answers they produce.

Add the fact that other tech firms, inspired by DeepSeek’s approach, may now start building their own similar low-cost reasoning models, and the outlook for energy consumption is already looking a lot less rosy.

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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke 5 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This stinks of desperation to change the narrative.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

do we have a name yet for the junior political commentators who appear to have learned the word narrative and apply it to every situation like I apply mayo to a sandwich? (disgusting amounts, you will shit)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

I want to say “plato’s cave of media awareness” but that’s perhaps too much a mouthful

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago

I mean, no, not really? "New AI is not as energy-efficient as first advertised" is just a special case of "AI is not as advertised", i.e., the least surprising turn of events.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How about we do this: everyone type their questions, and when it's windy and all those wind turbines start generating power, all the questions get answered.

[–] MutilationWave 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I like it. It's like praying to the storm god.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Assuming deepseek can actually be run locally you would just need a laptop, a dynamo, and the poetic edda to use as the installation prompt.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

i remember someone posted about spanish dudes living in apartment wired in such a way that they had all their power generated locally. that's some solar panels, exercise bike fitted with a flywheel and generator, batteries charged from these two and something else (?). they had a very light static website hosted on something tiny that was up only when they had enough power, which was most of the time

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

yeah it's this one, thanks

[–] MutilationWave 5 points 6 days ago

That's awesome.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This also reminds me of 100 rabbits, a gamedev studio who lives from a boat.

https://100r.co/site/home.html

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

reducing the 100r folks to “a gamedev studio” is abysmal, ew.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Hundred Rabbits is an artist collective that documents low-tech solutions with the hope of building a more resilient future. We live and work aboard a 10 m sailboat named Pino in remote parts of the world to learn more about how technology degrades beyond the shores of the western world.

oh so they make video games?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

foot-loom powered ml