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[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago

lmao the meltdown continues

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Like how everything on the internet got smuggled into their training data?

yawn stop complaining US big tech, it isn't a good look on you and besides if you are complaining that means you aren't working and taps sign the sign you put up yourself in place of the old one we all liked (what did it say? "maybe don't do evil"? I can't remember anymore) says "results not excuses".

: )

If I may leave you with a bit of advice, almost everybody hates your guts and honestly you deserve it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Us is looking like a limp dick cuck...

Chinese did a free market on US and oligarchs are having a melt down over it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago

Yeah and I thought taking whatever you need to train AIs was fine, right AI companies?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

OT: the sudden reload of the page in a reception hole on the train caused me to disable JS for tomshardware for forever. No reload that way. And it even loads faster.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Is some context missing? I'm trying to be dense, I'm just not sure how Deepseek broke American laws. I get that a license is required for countries to purchase these from the vendor. What is stopping a third party from collecting hardware through intermediaries and reselling them to a Chinese company outside of US borders?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yes.

Your response got that there is limited legal recourse, even if it’s true. The main hope is messaging but it’s a long shot.

The Deepseek-R1 paper shows us that training good LLMs can be done by anyone. That means you don’t need NVidias top of the line chips and you don’t need to pay a premium to some company that got access to those chips.

If it turns out that they lied about the hardware they used, it means that Nvidia and the big AI companies still enjoy a monopoly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

Makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

You're not allowed to buy/resell the hardware to China as an intermediary.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I get the prevailing idea, and I can understand the reasoning behind it. My question really was trying to ferret out whether it was US laws that were violated, Singaporean laws, the initial trade agreement, or something else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

The seller and buyer both violated US export controls, which is against US law.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] big_slap 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Lemminary 1 points 11 hours ago

IJBOL is what all the cool kids are using

[–] Agent641 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Dkarma 1 points 18 hours ago

Doesn't even come close to the h100s

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Authorities, including the White House and the FBI, are investigating whether DeepSeek obtained restricted AI GPUs through third-party firms in Singapore.

I wonder if this has anything to do with all those high-level terminations disguised as Jan 6 investigation retribution at the FBI.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 19 hours ago