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U.S. investigates whether DeepSeek smuggled Nvidia AI GPUs via Singapore (www.tomshardware.com)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Is some context missing? I'm trying to be dense, I'm just not sure how Deepseek broke American laws. I get that a license is required for countries to purchase these from the vendor. What is stopping a third party from collecting hardware through intermediaries and reselling them to a Chinese company outside of US borders?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yes.

Your response got that there is limited legal recourse, even if it’s true. The main hope is messaging but it’s a long shot.

The Deepseek-R1 paper shows us that training good LLMs can be done by anyone. That means you don’t need NVidias top of the line chips and you don’t need to pay a premium to some company that got access to those chips.

If it turns out that they lied about the hardware they used, it means that Nvidia and the big AI companies still enjoy a monopoly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

Makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

You're not allowed to buy/resell the hardware to China as an intermediary.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I get the prevailing idea, and I can understand the reasoning behind it. My question really was trying to ferret out whether it was US laws that were violated, Singaporean laws, the initial trade agreement, or something else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

The seller and buyer both violated US export controls, which is against US law.