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I'm looking to get a custom ROM that has good compatibility with my device. Would you recommend /e/? I couldn't find a tutorial on how to install it with Linux but I don't think it should be that hard to figure out.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I used it for a few years on Oneplus Nord, and a few days ago switched to pixel7 with LineageOS. First impressions are that e/os was much more usable out of the box.

I surely have worse experience with banking: Revolut and SmartID app just refuse to work due to rooted phone (worked well on e/os). Other bank app is somewhat more broken - on e/os it didnt fully load but at least showed notificatioms on each transaction, now doesnt and is useless.
Could be due to newer android version on LineageOS though, I didnt investigate that.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

/e/os is often behind on Android monthly security patches (sometimes up to a month or more!) and the apps they fork I have heard also often lag behind upstream. It also doesnt do much to deblob the ROM if proprietary binary blobs.

Comparison table of Android ROMs: https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It’s pretty solid. I use it daily and don’t have any big problems. Install is simple. Just install adb and fastboot from your linux repository. This should cover the most of the installation requirements.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don't know if installing from the repositories is such a fantastic idea. I've had instances where I've almost fucked up a device because I installed the ones from the repositories and they weren't new enough. I would recommend downloading the ones from Google directly.

Edit: the cli platform-tools

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sounds like either a terrible bug or user error. Which in both cases should be fixed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Well, when I tried the one directly from the repository, my version of Android would not boot, but then I downloaded the one directly from Google and did the same commands. And it booted. So yeah, either it was a bug or something.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Sounds pretty straight forward. What is compatibility like? Have you tried any banking apps?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I have ING app, it works seamlessly through microG but I don't need it for basic use of the app. I don't use my phone to pay for stuff.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Haven't had any major apps not work on it. Except one banking app for a while in the beginning, but works now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I have no banking apps on that phone, sorry. So I don’t know if they work.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Their easy installer is why many people I know installed it, but it only supports 21 devices and mine wasn't one of them, so I can't say much about usability or security. If yours is one of them, there's also a Linux guide on their website: https://doc.e.foundation/easy-installer

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah. I love the idea of the easy installer. Mine isn't listed either.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I love the idea of the easy installer.

looks at GrapheneOS installer.... Literally just 3 buttons on a Website you have to click, all of the steps easily written with clear instructions for Linux as well as windows

looks at /e/ installer

  • finds 5 Websites with installers for /e/, all of them apparantly official ones, decided to use https://e.foundation/installer/
  • Site dosent let you view this instructions without JavaScript.
  • enabled JS
  • Cant even use fcking Firefox to view this installer because a fcking pop-up Blocks my sight
  • goddamn privacy oriented Android Rom Website recommends using Microsoft edge or Opera (both of which are privacy nightmares, especially opera)
  • smashes pillow against the wall

I give up. If you call that bloated peace of dierrhea an „Easy installer”, you could just as well say that gentoo is easier to install than mint.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know that GrapheneOS is really easy to install. Problem is that I don't have a Pixel.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

My Problem is not that you dont have a Pixel, but that /e/ 's Website is literal dogpoop, and that already tells a lot about their OS. Like, they are in a literal conflict to support other, maybe even more privacy friendly backup for cloud systems because the already have their own

Does your phone support anything else? LOS, Calyx, etc

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Does your phone support anything else? LOS, Calyx, etc

Yes only LOS

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

I've used it for almost five years, flashed it myself on my FP3. I disabled microG and I'm very careful & strict about what I install on my phone, also their Advanced Privacy set of tools is pretty good. For my threat model is more than enough and I am very happy overall. Never had any serious issues, or even mildly serious ones tbh, despite people yelling about Android security updates arriving late. There was an outage in their cloud services in October that required a complete revamping of their server infrastructure and that took months but I don't use their cloud so I wasn't affected at all.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Here is a good comparison. As a reminder, there is no privacy without security, so if you live in the US (or anywhere that illegal searches happen regularly), I'd argue a less secure solution is by definition a less private solution.

https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

From the looks of it GrapheneOS still seems like the beer choice by far..

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Basically, but not everyone has a pixel or can afford to buy a new device.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I recently picked up a pixel 7a on ebay. $200 for like new condition. Probably the current sweet spot for value and remaining years of support.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if you got pixel and don't like GOS team, Calyx OS is a decent alternative also, you can lock bootloader and get most apps to work with microg

[–] GalacticGrapefruit 2 points 1 week ago

GOS team are some elitist jerks, sure, but what they make works well. And I respect the fuck out of Calyx for being committed to making something like MicroG work.

GOS or Calyx, either is gonna be miles better than /e/. /e/ is running their 'native IP scrambler' on a two-year old commit of TOR. Fuck everything about that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

/e/ has good but not perfect privacy. It still contains connections to Google and they added a tracking parameter to their update calls.

Their update cycles are very slow. You are usually one to two months behind monthly security updates. Full bulletins are a year behind and Webview is a problem as well. They ignore this point and do not realize, that Insuffizienz security is a privacy risk AS well.

So if you want good privacy with a convenient user experience and without thoughts about security, here you go.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Depends on how far you want to go. From what I've been able to tell, they pedel a lot of flashy metrics and still had a bunch of google calls. Some of which you can manually remove, same as LOS. I would avoid buying into their cloud and keeping an eye on things yourself, if you want to install it. I saw them rebrand a bunch of OSS tooling as their own products back then. Don't know if things changed since then, but I don't trust the marketing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A couple of my coworkers use it they are pretty happy with it and it works good from what I’ve heard :)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What phone do you want to flash on? Is it in this list? https://doc.e.foundation/devices

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Im using it for a couple of years. I flashed my fairphone 3 by my self back then, before the easy installer. It was the first time i did something "advanced" with a phone, but it worked quite well. After my fairphone 3 died, I bought a Fairphone 4 via murena. So everything was already installed etc In total I am happy with the Os. Their goal, the release of privacy oriented OS for everyone (so f.e. even my parents could use them) is quite of a utopia I suppose. But still, the team and community are doing a good job.

Yeah I already heard about grapheneOS, but its not working well with fairphone right? So murena it is for me :) And I would recommend to people, who are aware of the downsides and are little enthusiastic :)

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[–] abcdqfr 5 points 1 week ago

Personally I hear it had been a mixed bag. Hopefully time has refined this... Old stories about digging up old LOS images, bare minimal patches, and release under e branding with no consideration for security/hardening. Buuut that was info from a grapheneos vs eos forum, or something. Do your research, you know what sub you're in.

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