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That's it, I get an error message whenever I try to post or comment if I'm connected to my VPN, butnot trouble if I just get disconnected. Does not fit the idea of decentralized social media I had, but overall I'm mainly curious as to the reason why it is so.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lemmy has nothing in its code that blocks VPNs. Unfortunately a lot of instances use cloudflare and other man-in-the-middle services that do block VPNs.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

man-in-the-middle services

*Threat actors

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I believe Lemmy.world blocks VPNs. You could try a different instance which doesn't have that policy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I comment on Lemmy.World all the time via a VPN though. Maybe they don't allow it for accounts on their instance?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You are commenting on a lemmy.world community, but your connecting to sh.itjust.works, who then talks to lemmy.world. Your VPN isn't connecting directly to lemmy.world

[–] TheCoralReefsAreDying69 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I use a VPN and have never had issues connecting to lemmy.world despite regularly having issues with YouTube and Reddit. I wonder if its specific VPN networks or blacklisted IPs that lemmy.world doesn't like.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe .world only blocks the big VPNs. World pages also load very slow at least comparing to .ml. When someone links a .world link directly to a post there it takes ages to load.

[–] slazer2au 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Because so many bad actors use VPNs for ban evasion or span sources, blocking the VPN endpoints from posting or commenting is a low hanging fruit way of dealing with some spam. This is Lemmy.World stance.

There are many others instances that work over VPNs so in the spirit of decentralization you can use another instance to access lemmy.world content.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It also prevents normal people from using Lemmy at all...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

lemmy.world is NOT "Lemmy"

Hell, during the great reddit migration, if I recall correctly, lemmy.world had to cap sign-ups.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It is a massive portion of Lemmy. And it doesn't just stop people from signing up, it stops people from participating in any way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You yourself aren't even using a lemmy.world account. Your take on the matter is backwards and bizarre.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

...please re-read the comment you just replied to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Does .World think it’s their content?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

It's hosted in their servers. Dunno about the content licenses, if any.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

They host it, so they can do as they please.

Vote with your feet.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

One of many reasons to change instances

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lemmy.dbzer0.com for the win

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's where I went when I left .world. :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why did you leave .world, if you don't mind my asking, and just out of curiosity?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Dbzer0 was a better fit for me. I like the way it's ran.. just all around a better experience for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Not OP but I left because of the proposed change in moderation policy to allow "free speech" that basically would negate the anti-hate-speech policy.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It might depend on the lemmy instance you are posting to (lemmy.ml) and/or where you have your account (lemmy.world), because I don’t think that this is built into the AP protocol.

I suspect at least one of these uses some kind of filtering mechanism that blocks VPN users, like cloudflare’s CDN.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

btw, I think you may have mixed up the instances. The user is on .world and the post is on .ml

Other than that, you're probably correct

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oh yeah, hahaha.

Thanks, I’ll fix it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Aye good to know some instances block VPNs , didn’t know that. As a user from China who has to use a VPN always that would be problematic. Guys I got lucky with my instance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Shit really just works

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I used to have the same issue with lemmy.world - it’s the instance

[–] NOT_RICK_SANCHEZ 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is it! Instance blocks it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

.world is a fickle bitch in general. It would be good if more users and communities balanced out amongst other instances.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Don't use Lemmy.world server it is the regime front on fedi.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Get a free VPS from Oracle cloud in whatever region you want, run Wireguard on it. There, now you have a VPN that you control, and since it’s hosted by Oracle, and not a VPN company, there’s no way to “detect” it.

[–] evujumenuk 14 points 2 weeks ago

Like basically all cloud providers, Oracle publish their public-facing IP address ranges.

https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/General/Concepts/addressranges.htm

Many services block these because, as you are pointing out, standing up VPN tunnel routing on a cloud instance is sort of trivial. Cloud providers publish these ranges specifically so anyone can block them easily. If lemmy.world is not blocking Oracle Cloud already, it's only because they just haven't come around to it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

I assure you that's detectable. The VPN detector I know, classifies all cloud providers as VPN as a matter of course, because no normal user would be coming from a cloud network.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or better, run your own instance, rather than a VPN.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yup, good point. One can run a private instance for “selfish” reasons.

[–] UnfortunateShort 8 points 2 weeks ago

I just reconnect and hope for an unflagged IP lol