this post was submitted on 19 Jan 2025
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[–] Eldritch 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The main thing keeping people from using Mastodon is the lack of an algorithm. The very feature they should be using it for. The problem is your normal average person needs to be told by someone or an algorithm who to talk to or what to do. To go out and look for people to connect with on their own. We share interest. Or simply have work that interests them is too much effort. You need to show up in a little box on their interface otherwise they'll never find you.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

It's like every community website before they went corporate and went to crap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

You need to show up in a little box on their interface otherwise they’ll never find you.

Yes but you are punished for trying to show up in the little box, when you could show up out the window instead. Always playing an always losing game makes like, less than zero sense to me: it makes negative sense!

[–] YarHarSuperstar 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I actually kind of get his point. People in the US are addicted to convenience, and will actively accept harm and abuse for it. We might be better off being grateful they're even leaving more established platforms and working with where they are going.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The problem is this leads to an effect I've mentioned before: instead of dev and community efforts being invested in building good things, those efforts are spent "chasing tails". In this case, chasing yet another "standard" that won't be and where you are always going to play second-hand loser - and thus you are never goign to really "capture people".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

bsky is an upgrade from twitter, and has methods to allowe limited interoperability to the fediverse… the biggest hurdle to fediverse adoption at the moment is that you can’t leave fb/ig/twitter/etc without abandoning all your connections there with no ability to communicate cross platform. the choice to leave is dramatic… if everyone moves to bsky, that’s a far better proposition for eventual fediverse adoption because with things like bridges, the barrier to move to the fediverse is much lower - perhaps a slight inconvenience, rather than outright loss

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Perhaps, and I'm being very lenient. But still, doesn't justify US$ 30M.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

i agree, but there’s lots of waste in the world. this is just the way of things, and the best we can do is push for making things iteratively better over time - this is that… a wasteful use of money, but at least it’s pushing in the direction of open