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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is kind of a no brainer. Just like outlawing circumcision.

[–] DerArzt 11 points 4 days ago

Woah woah woah, bodily autonomy in this day and age? /S

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

I just read the title and like... how the pizza does anyone get into a situation like that? But.. ye, that should be illegal.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wait what, I'd kind of assune that all surgeries have to be consensual?

[–] Foreigner 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm assuming this refers to surgery on infants, in which case it's the parents who consent, not the child.

[–] quixotic120 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It’s exactly that, literally just read to the second paragraph of the article

“There is “growing evidence that surgical interventions on intersex infants can cause lasting harm, including stigma and medical mistrust,” says the report, titled ‘Advancing Health Equity for Intersex Individuals.’”

Link aggregation and the human tendency to read headlines and make assumptions about what the content could possibly be, when it’s literally right there, is mind boggling. This didn’t have a paywall or even an adblocker nag

[–] Foreigner 7 points 4 days ago

I did actually read the article shortly after commenting, but had good reason to believe they would be talking about infants anyway as I've some knowledge on the topic. However, the article isn't very clear that it's the parents making the decision on behalf of their infant, and reads a bit like the doctors are going ahead and mutilating babies without anyone's consent. Not that I find it's any better that parents are consenting on behalf of their children for non-medically necessary surgery.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Imagine if we just accepted people as they are...

[–] quixotic120 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don’t understand. Do you mean the article or my reply?

The article is saying that

My reply is frankly because I think that a lot of harm has come from people assuming context from inflammatory headlines. How much bullshit narrative about transgender people is believed because dipshits go on reddit, read the byline “trans people are x” and then skip the entire article of nuance in favor of their cognitive bias?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Oh no, I was referring to the article and the subject matter in general. Just kind of exasperated by all of this shit I guess and was just saying it to say it. I wasn't taking issue with what you said or anything. I can see now how that was unclear.

Just in general, I wish we could just accept people as they are. Intersex people are intersex. Aside from bullshit societal pressures (or medical necessity), there's no reason for people to feel the need to "correct" anything.

[–] quixotic120 1 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

That, but also doctors tend to push parents very hard for surgical interventions when they have an intersex child. Which kind of makes the moral panic about gender affirming care for children look as hypocritical as it is. They love doing gender-related surgery on kids when it reinforces the notion of a gender binary, even on kids who haven't even developed a sense of self yet, but not so much when it flies in the face of that preconceived notion.

[–] Pilferjinx 4 points 4 days ago

This would be great. Expand it to all genital mutilation and we're golden.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Its a suprise to me that there were even people doing that.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's extremely common on intersex infants. Gotta remember that most people barely know intersex people exist. And the doctors will tell the parents there's "something wrong", the parents want to have a "normal kid" and are told the kid won't know, and here we are.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Or if its anything like circumcision, they just do it without saying because its "the default".