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Fire crews are getting a unique hand in trying to slow the blazes tearing through Los Angeles - the California prison system. Nearly 400 inmates are among the 14,000 emergency responders working on the wildfires that have destroyed at least 2,000 buildings and killed at least seven in the Los Angeles area.

At present, inmates are believed to make up approximately 30 percent of the state’s firefighting force, according to the Los Angeles Times. The inmates are paid, though it’s a pitifully small amount — approximately $27 for an entire 24-hour shift. They’re also provided food in the form of sandwiches and fruit.

Guest hosts Russell Dobular and Keaton Weiss of the Due Dissidence podcast talk discuss California’s lengthy history of using prison labor to fight wildfires and Kamala Harris’ involvement as Attorney General in keeping inmates in prison to maintain firefighters’ ranks.


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Inmate Firefighters in California

  • A significant portion of California's wildfire fighting force is composed of inmates, who make up nearly a third of those battling the flames according to Forbes.
  • The 13th Amendment abolished slavery in the United States but contains a loophole that allows incarcerated individuals to be compelled to work for public or private entities.
  • Inmates who volunteer for firefighting positions must meet specific criteria and are not assigned to these roles without their consent.
  • As of 2023, their pay for these roles has been doubled, with wages ranging from 16 to 74 cents per hour or a maximum daily rate between 580 to 1024 dollars.
  • Inmates typically receive minimal meals, such as a simple sandwich and an apple, with an average daily food budget of approximately four dollars, which is insufficient for their labor demands.
  • Despite the voluntary aspect of their service, conditions are described as coercive, as inmates can reduce their sentence by two days for each day worked.
  • Inmate firefighters experience some of the highest injury rates among prison workers, being four times more likely to sustain injuries compared to other firefighters.
  • They are also required to work long hours and perform demanding tasks, utilizing tools such as powered chainsaws and axes to manage wildfires.
  • California has relied on inmate firefighters since the end of World War II, with a formal Conservation Camp program established in 1915 that trains incarcerated individuals for emergency responses.
  • As of the latest data, 44 conservation camps operate under the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, collaborating with the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.
  • In 2010, nearly 4,000 inmates resided in these fire camps, but this number has decreased due to a shrinking prison population and changing attitudes towards volunteer firefighting assignments.
  • The California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation has sought to expand eligibility for the program, which still employs up to 30 percent of the wildfire workforce.
  • In contrast, the Los Angeles Fire Department has a significantly larger workforce, with 392 employees, including over 3,200 uniformed firefighters.

Political Context and Criticism

  • The discussion highlights the role of political figures such as Kamala Harris in the ongoing issues surrounding inmate labor and firefighting policies.
  • Critics argue that Harris, while in office, contributed to policies that kept nonviolent prisoners incarcerated to maintain a labor force for firefighting, particularly in the context of wildfires in California.
  • The Supreme Court's ruling in Brown versus Plata identified significant constitutional violations within California's prison system, advocating for inmate release as a solution.
  • Despite the court's decision, California continued to struggle with overcrowding, leading to proposals that involved relocating inmates to fire camps as a workaround.
  • Harris's office was criticized for obstructing the release of low-risk prisoners, arguing that their incarceration was necessary for maintaining the firefighting workforce.
  • The conversation reflects on the broader implications of these policies, suggesting that they disproportionately affect marginalized communities, particularly Black and Brown individuals.
  • The narrative emphasizes a perceived hypocrisy in liberal politics, where the exploitation of inmate labor continues under Democratic leadership, contrasting with the portrayal of progressive values.

Public Perception and Media Coverage

  • The hosts discuss how issues of prison labor and exploitation are often underreported in mainstream media, particularly when they involve Democratic figures.
  • The lack of coverage on the use of inmate labor for firefighting highlights a double standard in media narratives surrounding race and incarceration.
  • The dialogue suggests that if similar practices were occurring in a Republican-led state, they would receive extensive media scrutiny.
  • The conversation reflects frustration with the public's lack of awareness regarding the systemic issues tied to prison labor and the political motivations behind them.
  • The hosts reference the ongoing dialogue about prison reform and the complexities involved in addressing these long-standing issues within the American justice system.

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