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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Uhg. How much longer until it's more viable to self host...

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[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (8 children)

You could look at infomaniak, but I didn't have the best experience trying out (or even getting started with) their services. Finding a provider that has all of Proton's apps is going to be tough (or at least it was from me while I was looking to escape from Tuta). Good luck, tho.

EDIT: Infomaniak is on F-Droid!

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[โ€“] Kyrgizion 8 points 19 hours ago

I was mulling moving everything from Google to Proton. Guess I'll keep my money for now.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Whatever you choose, remember that ease of migration is important. So for email buy your own domain name and use a service like mailbox.org that allows custom domains and full IMAP access.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

As far as I can tell from posteo's own FAQ site, they do not allow custom domains. I'd really consider swithcing to them otherwise. Do you use posteo?

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[โ€“] BananaTrifleViolin 2 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

As a Brit, I'm not offended by the Proton CEO's post. I don't like Donald Trump BUT I do like that he has hired someone who should be tough on tech anti-trust moves. This is very important.

Americans can be obsessed with their electoral system, but the rest of us don't have to pretend to support the Democrats or Republicans. I don't necessarily agree with all of Andy Yen's take regarding the two parties, but I'm not offended enough by it to boycott Proton, certainly not based on one tweet. I can also see the pragmatic benefit to his position by massaging trumps well known fragile ego.

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[โ€“] derbolle 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

i wanted to move my google stuff to Proton this year as a Backup for my self hosted stuff. Shame, seems like I need to put a little more time into managing my self hosted stuff

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

Ive been using proton for a little more than a year now and I think that the service is one of the best out there. That, and their privacy guides in their blog are great as well. I think abandoning ship this early isn't really a need. I've abondonded things like Plex for jellyfin due to Plex starting to feel very commerical. As others have pointed out, the governing of the company may keep one individuals views from interfering with the products. With that said, if your beliefs swing opposite, i see how it can leave a bad taste and make it worth keeping an eye on the direction of the company.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

is tuta the new pick for custom domain email?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Mailbox.org is another good one.

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