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Intel is taking the budget GPU market by storm - leaked Arc B570 benchmark shows solid performance for a very reasonable price (www.techradar.com)

submitted 1 month ago by cm0002 to c/hardware

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Never thought I'd see the day where Intel was doing decent graphics for once instead of shitty integrated crap LMAO

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I am having a hard time choosing between rooting for them or against them, to be honest.

Intel is still the same company that served us overpriced crap for years while AMD was lagging behind, but at the same time I’d love to see more competition in the space. I just wish it wasn’t Intel….

I guess for the consumer it’s a net gain, and that AMD would probably do what Nvidia does today, were they on their shoes. They all work for the shareholders in the end, not for making gaming better and cheaper for us, so make them fight for the customers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

You don't have to pick sides. More competition is good for consumers regardless of whether you are ever going to buy an Intel GPU.

[–] Fashim 2 points 1 month ago

In the same boat, not sure if I'll purchase Intel again after the issues with the latest CPU gens. But more competition in the market is always good.

Personally hoping some Chinese GPU company makes a break through in the western market too because consumer pc pricing is so out of touch these days

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Still waiting for a B770...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

There are dozens of us!

[–] vikingtons 2 points 1 month ago

Don't take my word for it, but I gather the BMG G31 die has been shelved. I don't think we'll see larger battlemage dGPUs than B5XX released to market.

[–] backgroundcow 1 points 1 month ago

I bought a low profile, low power A380 for a minitower linux machine to get something with enough power to smoothly run a modern high resolution desktop with minimal heat and sound. It has worked exactly as I hoped! Driver support seems perfectly solid, in comparison with my prior machine on a GTX750Ti. Hardware video decoding for modern codecs, variable refresh rate, etc. It have just been a solid trouble-free experience, which has been unusual in my prior experiences with Linux GPU support.

[+] givesomefucks -10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Still less performance and less vram than a 1080 ti...

For the same price.

So not sure what the hype is, they're almost beating an 11 year old card?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The GTX 1080ti launched at $700. The Intel B570 is $220.

It not only out-performs the 1080ti, but it also has support for way more modern features.

PC world used a 1080ti and a 3060 comparison in their review

[+] givesomefucks -6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The GTX 1080ti launched at $700. The Intel B570 is $220.

11 years ago...

Today they're 200-250.

That review is for the b580 at $250, you're commenting on an article about the b570...

And while the 580 supports ray tracing... It's gonna be a huge performance hit.

It tries to gain that back with frame gen, but it will have a really low real fps which means issues when it's used.

So you can have real frames and no ray tracing, or ray tracing and fake frames. For the samish fps

Most people will choose real frames.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yet these are new and in production, where you can only find used or refurbished 1080tis

Like, no one is saying to upgrade to a battlemage card from a 1080ti if you already have one, but you can't pretend there isn't a market for it. And while they might not be fully there yet, having a competitive entey-level market for GPUs will only bring good things for budget PCs.

[–] givesomefucks -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Why do you need new?

E waste is a huge deal, a refurbished or even used card is soooo much better for the environment than new

And people will always keep buying the newest and fastest, and selling last gen's newest and fastest into the used market.

There's nothing wrong with buying used as long as you're paying attention. It's not like 20 years ago when card burnt out in a couple years. Even mining rigs aren't that hard on cards these days because we're past the days of them OCing to go as fast as possible. They're undervolting to save on electricity and running at steady loads when power is cheap.

We need to normalize used hardware.

Quick edit:

I should point out to be very careful right now, everytime a new gen comes out there's a bunch of scams like cards without dies and other things.

Always be careful, check reviews and understand some things are too good to be true.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

My point is about the availability of used cards. Sometimes the market provides that, but they aren't going to stop making new cards just because older cards exist.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Who would buy an 11 year old card which uses a lot more power, when you can buy a new card with warranty, newer features and less wattage at almost the same price and performance?

It would be great for the environment if people bought used components more, but you know most people gonna buy new so they won't worry if their recently bought card is gonna fail.

I personally own a GPU bought from a miner, and never had any issue, apart from repasting it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Okay, $250 then. Everything I still said is still true.

Modern features is more than just raytracing and frame generation. It supports new graphics APIs, more video codecs, etc. Memory bandwidth has also significantly improved since Pascal.

I hadn’t even mentioned efficiency, but it uses ~100w less than a 1080ti, which means less heat as well.

It seems like you prefer buying used and don’t have much of a need for the new stuff, which is fine. Keep using your hardware as long as it meets your needs. But that doesn’t mean this card is a bad value. It’s just not for you.

[–] givesomefucks -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Everything I still said is still true.

About a different card no one is talking about and you subbed in?

Or about the actual card everyone was discussing and that the article is about?

Like, this is bigger than the topic at hand, you understand how you just created a different argument and are insisting people talk about that instead?

Right...?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Everything I said is true about both Intel cards. Clearly you are just arguing in bad faith and are not open to considering other options. Goodbye.