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Guns brought in through the border, toxic waste infecting the population, and now Trump wants to start a trade war with Mexico and other countries...
Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if the US was responsible for like half of Mexico's problems.
To be fair, it seems like Mexico should have never allowed this toxic dust to be brought into their country in the first place. It sounds like there is no safe way to extract zinc from this dust?
But if that's the case, the US shouldn't be allowed to sell it to other countries either.
System working as intended. It's not intentionally being done to destabilize Mexico so that the US can have cheap labor and a depressed secondary market. But for some reason we're not in the business of "nation building" in Mexico, like we were in say Iraq or Afghanistan. Even though the way narco cultura operate is very similar to ISIL/ISIS/ISI.
I dunno something to do with the petro dollar and needing a secondary manufacturing market where corporations can buy Chinese parts and assemble them to bypass tariffs and trade agreements.
Not to say that any nation building efforts would help the Mexican people, just that it's convenient to have a cheap source of labor on our southern border. Especially one where through NAFTA corporations aren't beholden to US Law.
See CocaCola for a prime example.
Frankly I wouldn’t be surprised if the US was responsible for like half of Mexico’s problems.
Well yes, but actually no.
If the mexican goverment would do their actual job or at least faked caring about civilians, then something could be done.
Historically, things like these would happen until someone brought light into it, then they acted as if they cared and fixed. With the current goverment, they don't care and they harrass the press/civilian who dares to bring light into their business (yes, 99% sure they know but are getting money for it).
Specially now that the past administration emptied the arks, they are aggressively looking for ways to get more money fast to keep bribing idiots into voting for them.
Decades or centuries ago we could have blamed the USA for some of the mexican problems... nowadays it's 100% our fault because we don't demand shit from our goverment and recently we voted for the Trump equivalent... twice in a row.
The cherry on top: the Monterrey's governor is on the payroll from the past president and has broken the law more than once since he is untouchable, so under the order of get me as much money as you can he might have ordered officials to turn a blind eye to it.
Yeah no. The Mexican government has more than enough to be blamed for but saying that it's 100% their fault is either hellish naive or just disingenuous.
The US drug policies have wrecked havoc on just about every Latin American country, but Colombia and Mexico have been hit the worst. The US arms policies makes it relatively easy to move heavy weaponry to Mexico from the US, that is if the US government isn't sending these weapons themselves.
These policies still stand and with Trump coming in, I imagine they will just get worse.
All of that... would not do so much damage if the goverment had taken steps to protect... us and itself.
The problems you mention are not of this presidential term (I think not even from this century?), so you are telling me there's nothing, absolutely nothing, we as a country could have done to fix those things... in more than 50 years?
Granted, maybe not completely fixed, but at least not moving backwards would be nice.
These policies still stand and with Trump coming in, I imagine they will just get worse.
This gives me a perfect example, we can (and should) blame the backwards policies that are to come with president musk's bitch, but the mexican goverment decided to completely ban every kind of vape in the name of heatlh, giving its control back to the narcos (allegedly to the son of their cult leader and that's why they had to do it ASAP).
If someone steps on my hand, that's their fault; if I do my best to keep my hand under that foot and even push it harder down, that's on me.
You are extremely oversimplifying a very complex situation.
The Mexican government consists of self serving corrupt assholes but also loads of people who genuinely try to make the country better. Mexico was a third world nation which has grown up tremendously in the past decades, but it still has ways to go.
Could they have done more / better? Sure, of course.
Is the US government complicit in the shit show going on now in Mexico, with their policies and actions? Absofuckinglutely, and a big part too.
Just because the Mexican government could have done better doesn't mean the US government is off the hook
loads of people who genuinely try to make the country better
Examples of people inside the mexican goverment doing what you said? Because this sounds like when someone says inside the police it's fault of the bad apples, not all of them being bad but still the not bad apples do nothing to make things better.
Just because the Mexican government could have done better doesn’t mean the US government is off the hook
Who said they are off the hook? I even acknowledged worse things to come due to the fucking cheeto, but you want to put a huge part of the blame on a country (USA) who didn't told our goverment to shit on us or to neglect every aspect of the daily life of the citizens.
But well, that's that, I know you just want to focus on blaming the USA instead of blaming those who spread their cheeks more than they should without actually working on what can we do to not get so fucked over.
Edit*: This means that yes, the USA fucked us, fucks us and will fuck us in the future, nobody denies that (but for some reason you say I do), but the mexican goverment trying their best to get us back into a third world country is not fault of the USA, that's our problem and only leaves us more open to be abused by any country, not just the USA.
I'm confused about this comment. I think what would help me get a handle on your viewpoint is if you could give me your opinion on Vicente Fox. Also what you think the impact a border wall would have on mixed communities like Brownsville and Matamoros.
Suggested reading for others if they're interested.
https://www.academia.edu/124548850/The_War_on_Drugs_in_Mexico_Narco_Culture_and_Conflict
I think what would help me get a handle on your viewpoint is if you could give me your opinion on Vicente Fox
Wtf does that a-hole has to do with this?
Also what you think the impact a border wall would have on mixed communities like Brownsville and Matamoros
A border wall sounds like a placebo and most likely a populist idea, but I don't live near those places so I can't tell where the fuck this idea came from or why was it brought in this thread.
Suggested reading for others if they’re interested.
Oh joy I can already tell where this is going...
This article couldn't have MORE lies and propaganda if they dared to... they even left out her crimes and her antivaxx position (she tested during covid, alright, using ivermectin on patients without their consent, supporting her cult leader [the expresident] propaganda against masking, quarentine and not wanting to buy the vaccines unless it benefits their friends).
https://www.academia.edu/124548850/The_War_on_Drugs_in_Mexico_Narco_Culture_and_Conflict
Can't read it without signing up or some shit, still I can tell you having a governing party fully backed and on the narcos payroll, won't help for shit.
Also her whole party and allied parties used the steamroll and voted to make vaping (both nicotine and dry-herb, electric or not) illegal... and now it's illegal again, giving back the control of the product to the narcos so... yeah.
This one is true, but still lacks the information from recent years (no mention about the spike on press attacks during the last presidential term), sadly it will seriously lack information since the order was to stop keeping metrics at any cost.
We investigated ourselves and found no corruption, there is your summary of the article, meanwhile the last and current goverment have given so MANY direct contracts to their friends and family they are putting previous administrations to shame with their nepotism and corruption.
I live in México (not Monterrey, tho), I have to deal with the constant shitshow it's become since morena took over... fuck's sake, I had to pay for my fucking COVID booster twice (one last year, one this year) because they are applying fucking Sputnik/Abdala/CanSino at public hospitals (not only outdated, but relabeled to hide it's already past the recommended date... way past it).
But as we say in México... I am enjoying what the others voted for while I read people defending them only because they claim to be from the left but they act from the right.
Thank you for responding. I gave a couple links that you could give context to so other people can get a better understanding of your point. I lived in Ciudad before all the anglos and "digital nomads" started all the gentrification there.
US corporations and the War on Drugs have fucked over Mexico in such a way I don't think will ever get fixed in my lifetime.
I gave a couple links that you could give context to so other people can get a better understanding of your point
Seemed to me you were trying to inject propaganda but whatever...
I lived in Ciudad before all the anglos and “digital nomads” started all the gentrification there.
I was born in México, I've lived here all my life... did I win the dick measuring contest?
US corporations and the War on Drugs have fucked over Mexico in such a way I don’t think will ever get fixed in my lifetime.
The US corporations and the wAr On DrUgS are a sympton or a consequense, an excuse if you want, there are deeper problems that allow all of those to go on.
I'm not trying to compete with you. Why are you so defensive?
Because I'm tired of people parroting propaganda (hence your links to inform others) under the disguise of I just wanted to know your opinion, hope that makes it clear and I'll just block you so you won't derail the thread any more.
The AP is not propaganda. I can't find anything you've alleged about vaccines. Also you became extremely defensive once I posted anything someone could site or someone else could reference. You're also defending narcos and US corporations by proxy by just saying votes were bought in the last election. There's no proof of that anywhere.
I think you're derailing threads. You seem to have a history of spreading misinformation and also strangely purging your comment history. Which are both techniques of misinformation merchants.
We're not sending out best.
That guy should sue them for infringing on his trademark Stew.