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My wife's phone dies every. single. day. and I don't know why she doesn't just charge it at night.

I'm just wondering how people live like this πŸ˜…

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I charge my phone at work ...

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[–] synapse1278 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Because I try to charge my phone when I am in the office, as much as possible. There are no small savings in my book :D

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[–] Dekkia 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I charge it during the day at work.

Boss makes a dollar I make a dime...

[–] janonymous 10 points 2 years ago

... that's why I charge on company time

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just fall asleep while watching a yt video of something and the phone is still in my hand.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I genuinely don't understand how this works for so many people. When i watch something, I watch it and wont sleep until i make the concious decision to stop paying attention and close my eyes. Same with books or anything really. Maybe music works

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[–] CaptainBlagbird 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Fire hazard.

I charge it at work while I'm (mostly) conscious. xD

[–] rattymeantime 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This. I'm surprised Fire Hazard is not the top answer in this thread...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Keeping Lithium-ion batteries at 100% charge will reduce their lifespan. They want to live in the 40-80% range. I use an app that notifies me when my phone has charged to 80%, so that I can unplug it. It may be overkill, but I plan to use this phone for 9 more years or so.

[–] RomanRoy 4 points 2 years ago

Me too. Samsung has a feature to "protect battery life", so it only charges until 85%. You can keep it on power, but it won't surpass 85%.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

9 more years?? I've gotten almost 6 years out of my Oneplus 5T and I've been ecstatic about it. It's literally lasted 3 times longer than any phone I've had before it

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Both iphone and androids have an OS option to stop charging at 85 though - I keep it on all the time unless I'm going to need that extra bit of juice

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I used to never charge my phone at night, because of my battery health pedantry. I the found the AccA app which enables me to limit the maximum charging, so now I sometimes leave it changing during the night.

[–] c0mbatbag3l 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

If you're still convinced you need to run your battery down to zero you're operating on outdated knowledge of NiCad batteries and ruining your lithium ion batteries.

My Android phone has a built in functionality to charge so that it hits 100% when your alarm is rigged to go off. Idk about iphone though.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was not talking about running the battery down to 0, that's no good for li-ion batteries either. I was talking about the exact, opposite, reaching 100% and staying there for hours on end (which happens during the night). With AccA I can set an upper limit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Hi Tmpod! This is actually a common misconception among the general device-using public!

You are absolutely correct that a lithium battery will degrade if you maintain a state of charge (β€œSOC”) for long periods of time that is either above 90% or below 10%. Of course, phone manufacturers know this too, and they have set the charging software to block off the top of the pack, which allows the user to safely leave their phone on the charger indefinitely.

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[–] Ataraxia 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I use Samsung built in feature to limit to 85% and I'm so glad they implemented it because I was about to either try to look for an app again or stop charging at night...

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I feel this pain. Wife's battery-powered devices are always in a constant state of dying. Something has convinced her that it's better to let the battery almost! die, then charge it to full, but not leave it plugged in because that will degrade the battery; meaning it never gets charged overnight. I'm sure there's a small kernel of truth in where she learned that, but it's almost a joke at this point when she goes scrambling for her charger when using her phone, tablet, etc. It's painful, but also adorable? I guess. Anyway, it's not a hill I'm willing to die on, so I just let it be and laugh almost everytime it happens.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

She needn't worry about manually optimizing battery wear, and, in fact, the most harmful thing you can do to a battery is to fully deplete it frequently.

Educate her about built-in optimized battery charging. iPhones and some Androids have it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Something has convinced her that it’s better to let the battery almost! die, then charge it to full, but not leave it plugged in because that will degrade the battery

That was true a long time ago when NiCad batteries were around. But, since they had the problems you described, they're not around any more, and phones generally all use lithium-ion batteries which don't have this issue.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think that was true like.. 10+ years ago, but battery and power management tech have advanced so that's no longer necessesary. I think running full cycles on your battery is actually bad for it now, I set mine to stop charging when it hits 85% to preserve battery health.

Sounds stressful constantly worrying about battery life, plopping it on a wireless charger before bed is the way to go.

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[–] kcvis 9 points 2 years ago

I wfh and charge during work

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

when i see people's phones constantly at, like, 12%, it drives me crazy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Haha it's always funny with screenshots posted on social media, like 4% I'm sweating πŸ˜…

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Like, you went through your day exhausted and want to finally make a decision to go to bed for yourself, but no you have to remember to connect the USB cable.

Get her a wireless charger stand.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I forgor πŸ’€

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

they forgor

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Because i charge it before i go to sleep?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I have a wireless charger on my desk, pretty much almost every day I already have 100% when going to bed

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought you're not supposed to keep things charging after they reach full battery. Also I don't have a plug near my bed lol

[–] tiwenty 16 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Recent smartphones learn your patterns and don't fill up until the morning. For instance my phone currently is stuck at 80% and says it'll be fully charged at 7AM

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There's actually a safety factor there. When Li-Ion (lithium-ion) batteries fail and suffer thermal runaway (fire), it's most commonly during charging. It's rare, but it does still happen. The rule is to avoid charging Li-Ion powered devices unattended. I do that at times myself, but I realize the risk and actually put things in a "charging pot" if unattended.

You don't need anything fancy to use as a charging pot, a ceramic casserole dish will do. If you're going to charge while asleep or out of the house it's not a bad idea to use some kind of containment.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't want an exploding phone in my bedroom. I charge it at my desk while working

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We are the same, I put my phone and charge (set to stop charging at 85%) overnight, my wife does not, and then her phone dies at odd times like when she is out shopping. I suppose it is about having a scheduled routine or not. I have alarms set for 10:30 every evening to check if a charge is needed for my watch that day. Some people just don't like the routine and prefer to live a bit more on the edge.

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[–] WorldieBoi 4 points 2 years ago

I got a Oneplus that charges at 65w so I don't have to leave it plugged in overnight. I just charge it 15min while shaving or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I do generally charge my phone at night, but I do it while awake and unplug it before I go to sleep. It's increasingly rare these days, but I just don't want to risk the potential fire hazard of leaving a phone plugged in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Some people are just extremely lazy. I used to be the same, but I decided to spend a few dollars on a wireless charging stand that I can just throw my phone onto while I'm dozing off.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know you married one, ask her and let us know?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One of my phone's puffed up while being on the charger at night. Woke up next to a spicy pillow.

I work from home on a desk job. I charge my phone once a day so now I do it at 4pm everyday and follow that cycle.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

It doesn't matter when you got a fast-charge phone.

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[–] zephyr 3 points 2 years ago

Because it's already 100% when I go to sleep

[–] AskThinkingTim 3 points 2 years ago

If I don't charge at night it is because I forgot to charge it.

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