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[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

The head of the investigation, Risto Lohi of the National Bureau of Investigation, told Reuters the vessel was threatening to cut a second power cable, Estlink1, and the BalticConnector gas pipe between Finland and Estonia at the time it was seized.

"Lohi" is Finnish for "salmon". That's right. Inspector Salmon is in charge of this investigation. Thankyou, Finland.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

This Lovely Bones sequel is weird

[–] SkyezOpen 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh my gosh people Finland isn't even real. They're is no landmass. FIN-LAND. It's all fish! They're even rubbing our faces in it with these stupid names.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Shhh! Don't give us away!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Steal some of the oil. Replace it at correct stoichiometric ratio with ammonium nitrate or some other powerful oxidiser. Attach a detonator and tracking device to the ship. Don't tell the crew. Let the crew go free. When the ship reaches its destination, detonate. Halifax explosion, round two.

Fuck you, whoever would buy Russian oil.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (9 children)

I should maybe add that I don't think this is actually a good idea. I can just see that it's scientifically possible, and I enjoy constructing scenarios like this.

But to those who are riding Putin's dick, just know that these are the things the West could do, but chooses not to. And the fuck you to all buyers of Russian oil still stands. I don't care how poor they are.

[–] eatCasserole 3 points 6 days ago

Oh yeah, it's just fun to imagine murdering a bunch of civilians, who have absolutely no say in whose oil just sailed into their harbour. Disgusting.

Would you rather buy Saudi oil? American oil? Yeah, like that's any better.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You realize that a lot of Russian oil gets "laundered" and then imported to the EU? So you would likely blow up an EU port, which is like a double Christmas and birthday gift to Putin.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It would probably blow up the port doing the laundering, which is unlikely to be happening in the EU.

But it would even more likely blow up an Indian or Chinese port.

It doesn't matter. Like I said, I think this is a really bad idea. Mainly because it is collective punishment, and almost all of the thousands of victims would have had nothing to do with their corporations' and their governments' decision to buy that oil.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

They also pump oil from ship to ship while at sea. It is said that this ship in particular also was involved in such maneuvers, which of course are highly dangerous and can easily result in oil spilled.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

They are russian flagged vessels right? What does that mean in terms of ability to do things about them?

I assume you can't legally just board/sink them, even with cause?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They are russian flagged vessels right?

No, this specific ship is registered in the Cook Islands.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As are many I believe? Like how most US companies incorporate in Delaware I think it's for tax reasons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yes and no delaware are for giving as little as possible back and Panama is when they want to take money from people and not give any back

It's not the same with boats just a home port thing

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Edit: I thought that the gulf of Finland was narrower than it is, and this affects the relevance of my comment. See boredtortoise's reply below

Under UNCLOS at least, a country can board a ship within its territorial waters to investigate a crime "if the consequences of the crime extend to the coastal State" (and some other reasons). Sinking it is almost certainly illegal, but it's an unarmed ship and Finland has marines so I can't imagine that they'd have much trouble boarding it if they wanted to

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The boat was caught on international waters without an anchor when the event happened. The Coast guard asked it kindly to move into Finnish waters where the police boarded the boat with the border guard giving a chopper ride.

No marine equivalents were actually needed which has the benefit of the apprehension not being a military action which could've easily been made escalatory in propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Ahh shit, I had just assumed that the gulf of Finland was narrow enough that it was all someone's territorial water, but it isn't. Thanks for the correction, I will edit a note into my comment

Regarding the marines thing, that was not because I thought Finland actually had used them, more an "if the crew actually did try to fight about it, Finland is quite capable of winning that fight"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Ty, I was expecting them to be russian flagged to 'dare' NATO to mess with them as an excuse to do... Something

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Pay them to sabotage the infrastructure of Russia and its allies. Plainly all this crew wants is money.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ah yes that's it. Steal the oil, sell it, and use the proceeds to pay the crew to sabotage Russia and its allies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The oil doesn't even cover the damages so I'm not sure that's the best way to use that money

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What do you think the money should be spent on?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Repairing the cable. Sorry I thought it was implied

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