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Microsoft should be terrified of SteamOS (www.pcworld.com)
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[–] surph_ninja 1 points 7 hours ago

Microsoft has been steadily moving away from backwards compatibility and trying to be a one-stop shop for everything. They just want Windows to be focused on data collection and spying at this point. And your gaming data isn’t as valuable as you might think.

If they don’t have one for it already, they’ll just want to make a compatible Xbox app to run on Linux. If Linux can serve the gaming folks, and they get their data with an Xbox sign-in, it’s way less work and cost for them to keep Windows running the games well. I doubt they feel threatened at all.

[–] Lightor 4 points 16 hours ago

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is the final hurdle keeping me on windows, a seamless gaming experience. If SteamOS can hammer everything out, there's zero reason to stay.

[–] A_Random_Idiot 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I would argue that at this point, today, its already a fairly seamless experience.

The only singular issue is MMOs with invasive rootkit anticheats. All the MMO's i've played have worked like a charm with zero issues, but thats because I actively avoid games that use invasive rootkit anticheat systems... and I did that on windows, too, so its never been a big issue for me.

Might be an issue if you love your korean mmos though.

and I'm not, like, a sysadmin with 2 decades of linux experience or anything. I'm just a random idiot.

I dont say this to proselytize or try to get you to convert/install today. Just a vewpoint from general everyday user.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Nope, I'm almost exclusively single player at this point. How's the performance and everything? Is there any drop off?

[–] SoftTeeth 1 points 7 hours ago

Check for the games you play here, it will tell you if there's good linux support for it currently

https://www.protondb.com/

[–] A_Random_Idiot 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Everything runs about as good or better than on windows.

That doesnt mean there arent games that run bad.. but those games run bad because of something wrong with the game, and not because of running it on Linux or Windows. Cities Skylines 2 and Starfield being prime examples of games that run like ass, because they are ass, and not because of running it on Linux or proton. . . Just for full disclosures sake.

I will say that I run a gaming specific distro (I personally use nobara, but I've also heard good things about other gaming distros like bazzite) that takes care of a lot of the headache and has all the annoying shit setup and installed ready to go. It would definitely be more headache trying to get to the same point on, say, ubuntu.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

My biggest issue is I work in IT and by the time I'm done for the day I absolutely don't want to screw with it. I just wanna fire up and go. It seems that I might need to do some research, as things have progressed further than I'd realized.

[–] A_Random_Idiot 1 points 5 hours ago

Thats pretty much my experience with every game I play anymore. Its just click and go.

The only extra step, is something you only have to do once upon fresh install of steam, and thats go into settings > Compatibility > Enable steam play for all games, and set the default proton to use for them to proton experimental.

after that every windows game you download will automatically use proton experimental and should just run right off the bat.

Its genuinely amazing how far proton has come just in this last year alone, and gaming on steam in general.. and for that latter part, a lot of the progress is simply due to the gaming focus distros that have everything pre installed, configured, and setup ready to go.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

The only problem I have gaming on Linux these days is anti-cheat on a couple titles. Everything else is seamless already. The steam client works just as it does on Windows.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Imagine gaming with no windos OS…. The future is better!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago

No need to imagine!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m legitimately curious how many half-baked ad-filled second-to-the-punch products will be too many for Microsoft before they finally capitulate.

[–] A_Random_Idiot 2 points 9 hours ago

Man, if microsoft capitulated, and gave us a Windows 7 - 2, that was just windows 7 with current support, no spyware, no telemetry, and a nice coat of polish... I would definitely be tempted to switch back lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm waiting for a MS vs Steam lawsuit where MS tries to sue over the usage of the Windows api

[–] BradleyUffner 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They would have a hell of a time trying to say they want to control API usage after letting everyone and their mother use it free and unrestricted for decades. But I wouldn't put it past them to try.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Steam is terrified of the Microsoft store. It's part of why they're moving to linux

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Even MS hasn't dared to release a version of Windows you can't switch out of "S mode" yet, but the fact that it even exists would be troubling for them.

MS would love a walled garden like Apple have made, but there's no way in hell it would ever pan out for them, and certainly not before regulation arrives (probably from the EU) that would stamp it out, and that's before you take into account the business implications. Windows only exists because of all the pre-existing software. Flattening the only reason to stay would be suicide.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I prefer to have it on anyways. Even if you don't understand the benefits.

We'll see how it goes, Microsoft has quite the garden for some industries already. And a pretty solid one too, so much so that the eu parlement caught themselves breaking their own rules by being in it

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

thats exactly why Valve start Fighting Against Windows, UWP And Microsoft store.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Sure, but Valve is terrified of the Microsoft store for a subtly, but importantly, different reason than why Microsoft should be terrified of Steam OS.

Microsoft should be terrified that Steam OS will destroy their monopoly by making it so users no longer have to use their product.

Valve is terrified that Microsoft will destroy their monopoly by making it so users no longer can use their product.

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[–] HowManyNimons 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

SteamOS will let you pay games from GOG, right?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Because they're DRM free, they're super easy to install too! Another install method is Heroic

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes you just have to sideload the client. I believe Lutris makes it easy but I don't use GOG myself.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago

Heroic makes it even easier

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (7 children)

I hope to see this before the EoL date set for Windows 10 and a bunch of people throw out perfectly good machines to buy something that works with Windows 11.

Personally, I won't use Windows 11 on my home machines. But my concern is that I install a distro this year and want to switch to SteamOS later, but would have to start over with customizations, etc. in the new distro. I wish SteamOS was available now for gaming rigs!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I think it should be available just in time for Windows 10 sunset later this summer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdR-bxvQKN8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebmp2FIrTlE

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