The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
Killing people during a search warrant needs to be considered an unacceptable criminal failure.
Like what is the fucking hurry to pull this shit in the middle of night while people are sleeping? You know who they are and where they live. Study their habits and grab them when they exit the house.
Repo drivers do the opposite all the time without issue.
Study their habits and grab them when they exit the house.
What? You mean do 'actual police work'? GTFOOH
I've also never understood the need to do this at their homes in the middle of the night, just watch them, confirm it's them and nab them when they are leaving their house or when they get to work or wherever. Not cozied up in their familiar environment where they probably have weapons, that the police aren't familiar with.
Because it is cover for extra-judicial killing.
Quit pretending that it isn't.
I've repossessed a few cars in my lifetime.
Basically this. Just watch for when they leave home then nab the target as soon as it's clear.
Uh, it is considered a criminal failure?
I'm gonna use this headline:
"Luigi Mangione fatally shoot man while excersing his right to self defence"
Not Guilty, Case Dismissed! 😎
If the police were smart, they'd set up aline, and charge people $5.00 a person to hug luigi. You know the line would be miles long.
At this point they could open an onlyfans account and solve national debt
I'd hug the crap out of him
Well there's no need to get fecies involved.
Yeah, there is such a thing as TOO tightly..
They would probably need to accept congical visits
Learned nothing from Breonna Taylor. Kentucky cops are something else.
They learned they can continue to get away with murder
I'm still surprised there aren't more revenge killing of cops. Surely more people whose family have been murdered by the police have the thought. I'd nullify, anyway.
Lost Kentucky Police Officer Murders Man
I'm no keyboard tough guy, but if the cops kick in your door, they are there to kill you.
Do what you will with that information.
I don't like cops but that's not true. It will be once you shoot at them though.
Many people have but I've never heard of one surviving.
At that point, your outcome is pretty similar either way....
Brianna Taylor's boyfriend did and he survived. But she died.
If you're already in the situation...