Anybody that thinks the song is creepy has no understanding of history, or the lyrics themselves
this post was submitted on 25 Dec 2024
-6 points (31.2% liked)
Music Videos
247 readers
10 users here now
/c/musicvideos is the place for music videos: Creatively produced video that matches a single song soundtrack.
Rules:
1. Must be an actual Music Video
There is music and there are videos, but "actual" Music Videos are effortful productions with strong visual content and music together. Concert recordings don't count. Cell phone videos don't count. Webcam performances don't count. Lyric videos don't count. Slideshows don't count. ETC!
1 song with a creative/produced video to match is the only thing that should be posted here! Fan-made content is okay as long as some effort is put into making something that stands alone.
2. Title must include: Artist - Title [genre] [year]
All video posts must have a title that starts with the Artist Name, then a space, a single - dash, then a space, the Song Title, then a space, the genre or multiple genre tags within [ ] square brackets, then a space, the year the video was made within [ ] square brackets (omit year if N/A). Then a title can have further description or comments, such as director name or producer credit or any special description.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
I'm aware of the criticism, and my statement remains.
The criticism of it is based in ignorance and a lack of ability to read and interpret lyrical content.
You can't separate the song from its cultural milieu.
It's like trying to read "o Captain my Captain" without understanding how, when, and why Whitman wrote it. Without the cultural context, it may well remain a great poem, but it reads different, but if you pay attention, you can have a decent chance of understanding the intent of the writer anyway.
It's cold outside was very much a product of its time, and the entire way of viewing sexuality, and the value of women.
It's a snapshot of the changes in thinking that preceded the sexual revolution and the feminism of the last half of the 20th century.
The lyrics consist of the host trying to convince the guest that she should stay for a romantic evening because he fears her getting too cold outside, despite the fact that she feels she should return home to her concerned family and neighbors.[6]
I'm not sure why you would bother copy/pasting a complaint I stated in the previous comment that I'm aware of.
The criticism of the song has been going on for years now. All the talking points against it are, frankly, bullshit.
Plus, the comment you're copy/pasting this in response to already specifically contains the counter argument.
What's you're point?
So if there's a song where the woman thinks it's time for her to leave, but the guy comes up a possibly invalid reason for her to stay, and he repeats it a lot, somewhat oblivious about her misgivings, because he wants to have sex with her, it's okay now, because in a different context it was okay.
That's only one interpretation of the lyrics, and it's an interpretation that both ignores the lyrics as they're written and performed, but the context as well.
Frankly, I'm not sure what the point of this is. You keep going back to the same argument that I've clearly said I know already, and that I've been pretty blunt in saying is bullshit.
Also, the whole half-assed "gotcha" you think you pulled is invaded indeed half-assed straw man bullshit
So, I'm done. You obviously have an axe to grind and poor communication skills.I hope that the rest of your holiday season is wonderful despite that. Have a good one!
That’s only one interpretation of the lyrics, and it’s an interpretation that both ignores the lyrics as they’re written and performed, but the context as well.
What other interpretation is there? That she has little if anything to worry about—that she's perfectly safe with him; that he has no intention to have sex with her, that he is truly worried that she might freeze to death out there—that his place isn't in some town or other urban area, much less a city like NYC, Chicago, or LA, but maybe northern Alaska, so she might as well stay. As for the drink, maybe he put in something she isn't used to such as lime, Tabasco sauce, or cinnamon, not some narcotic that will render herself incapable or resisting sexual assault?
Frankly, I’m not sure what the point of this is. You keep going back to the same argument that I’ve clearly said I know already, and that I’ve been pretty blunt in saying is bullshit.
Repeatedly calling something bullshit isn't really arguing either.
Also, the whole half-assed “gotcha” you think you pulled is invaded indeed half-assed straw man bullshit
"half-assed straw man"?
So, I’m done.
okay.
You obviously have an axe to grind
not really.
and poor communication skills.
okay.
I hope that the rest of your holiday season is wonderful despite that. Have a good one!
and likewise. 😁🙂