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Excellent progress was made this week towards the goal of full sound theme support in Plasma 6, among other topics–including some important performance work for KWin!

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[–] aggelalex 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

I want to see KDE focus on its UX a bit more and break a bit of harmful backwards compatibility. Having multiple rows in the window header like the combination of a title bar a menu bar and an action bar that makes their combination tall AF, having a thousand disjointed panes, apps being completely rigid and non-responsive and using dated customisation options that only lead to inconsistent and ugly results when tampered with, and rejection of design paradigms that get praised and adopted by everyone like headerbars, all in the name of old theming technologies that depend on practically technical debt, like X11. KDE needs to adopt a vision that looks towards the future, not the past. Until then, I'll stay in GNOME.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But I use KDE because of the separation that title bars offers

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Many of us don't praise or want titlebars controlled by apps individually, and there are more reasons to keep them separate than just backward compatibility, FWIW.

But if you haven't checked it out lately, you may want to look at the MauiKit/Nitrux stuff.

[–] bslinux 4 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't use Plasma if I didn't have the option to turn on menus. The hamburger menu was a horrible design for desktops. Give me a title bar, menu bar, and toolbar. Small screen devices might benefit from minimization but not the desktop.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

rejection of design paradigms that get praised and adopted by everyone like headerbars

please, use gnome and forget about the other de

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

headerbars

Nothing against your personal preference but I take a good global menu integration over headerbars every single day 🙂.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yep a more minimalistic approach to UI/UX would be great for KDE but I don't think we will see it in Plasma 6

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Good. Stay in GNOME. KDE is not and will never be for you

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

KDE feels like it has been designed by developers themselves whereas Gnome feels like it has been designed by actual designers. The UI/UX is more polished and beautiful, better than even MacOS imo. But as a power user, I prefer KDE. The amount of customization it offers is unmatched, overwhelming even.

[–] RegalPotoo 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tangentially, is there a defined timeline with Neon for getting Plasma 6 once it's released? What about when the new Ubuntu LTS drops?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The question is: when is Plasma 6 out?

[–] RegalPotoo 2 points 1 year ago

Rough target is end of 2023 I think? Guess it's a case of "when it's ready"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm currently in Gnome again. Two weeks ago it was kde for a few months. I keep switching back and forth. :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I switched to kde yesterday after a few months on gnome :-) Also tried Hyprland a couple of week ago but tiling WMs are not for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It’s a petty stupid thing for me to get hung up on - but I just find the icons and theming in KDE to be so, so ugly and dated. It stops me from ever really digging in to give it the try it almost certainly deserves.