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[–] someguy3 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry we'll start from scratch again in 4 years. Thanks voters!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you think picking between "smalldick energy, jesus, and prejudice"-flavored capitalism or "ineffective outrage, bare minimum to say were better than the other one"-flavored capitalism we are forced to pick between will do anything to reverse the legalized and ubiquitous corruption actively destroying our country and the world then you are the exact kind of dope they need to keep the system running entirely on wedge issues.

[–] someguy3 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

^This is the kind of guy that stopped us from having Gore. Imagine where we'd be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I vote, I just don't pretend like who we are allowed to vote for is the reason this country is going to burn down in a decade or two. Right about now voting is the same as protecting someone from hitting their head as they fall to the floor during a heart attack.

[–] ChicoSuave 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The solution is to protest. Stop businesses from doing business - the bigger the business, the louder the message. Make the money stop to make the changes needed.

If we could get the world to stop like it was the start of the pandemic, then the world can get a chance to heal. The next step to undoing the damage is carbon capture and carbon sinks. We have to find a way to remove the carbon and build a natural system to deal with it - forests work great for all of these. Grow nature, save the world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

General protests are worthless, yell and shout all you want they have no incentive to listen and thus they never will. We must give them incentive to listen, a sharp incentive, maybe on a like a blade on a rope in a wooden track, and maybe you put their head in it?

[–] DougHolland 2 points 2 days ago

Violence is not the answer, we’re taught. Most people believe it, and heck, I’ve said it myself.

But you know what else isn’t the answer?

Peaceful picketing. Sending a letter to your Congresscritter. Going to meetings...

Good people have done all those things, without success since the 1960s — back when protests carried an undertone of “or else.”

What’s needed is more of “or else.”

[–] DougHolland 1 points 2 days ago

I envy the optimism, but I think the oligarchs only allowed the COVID shutdown because it was temporary. What's needed is a bigger, much bigger shutdown that's permanent.

[–] Xenny 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Not saying do nothing. These fuckers need to pay. But it's already too late. Get your apocalypse plan together because by 2040 this world as we know it is over.

[–] DougHolland 1 points 2 days ago

Honestly, yes. The time has passed. Even if we took enormous action immediately (which, spoiler, won't happen), the damage is done and the impact will continue.

It makes me glad to be old. I'll be gone, I hope, before the city I live in is washed away.

[–] rickdg 4 points 2 days ago

I wonder why paying to keep polluting the planet isn’t working 🤔

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

These collated lists are great. Keep them coming!

[–] aviationeast 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Those no good dolphins, using drugs instead of being a productive member of society. They probably don't have a place to stay either.

[–] DougHolland 2 points 2 days ago

Probably commies.

[–] mdurell 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Are you arguing that unfettered corporate capitalism is the best approach?

[–] mdurell 2 points 2 days ago

Actually, I misread this. I read this as we cannot solve it by reigning in... My mind is a funny thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Pretty sure they're saying that tearing down capitalism entirely is the only approach.

[–] DougHolland 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Huge-scale capitalism — Boeing and GM and Musk, et al — absolutely, but my home town diner isn't doing any damage. Coffee and a cinnamon danish, please.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All businesses weren't doing much damage until they got big enough to do damage. Capitalism isn't so much the pursuit of capital in general as it is the pursuit of capital over all else. If your diner values giving customers a good meal as much as it values making a profit, it's great! But if it follows the capitalistic method of squeezing all profit from the scenario, all else be damned, then it's just a smaller version of all the major businesses.

[–] DougHolland 1 points 2 days ago

Exactly.
(: Join me for flapjacks and coffee, and you'll like the place as much as I do.

[–] mdurell 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think I can get behind that but do need more details about what replaces it and how.

[–] DougHolland 0 points 2 days ago

Droughts and floods, rising sea levels, hurricanes and tornadoes, sweltering heat waves, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together — mass hysteria!

But yeah, we need more details about the alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

.... so does that mean we don't have to rein in corporate capitalism then?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Itsa me ...... Luigi!