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One month ago, during a meeting in Beirut, a senior western diplomat was venting his frustration: when would international sanctions be lifted from the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad? Though the dictator had few friends, it seemed that the brutal killing and torture of hundreds of thousands of protesters had succeeded in finally crushing Syria’s 13-year revolution.

It was time to face facts, the diplomat said. Assad had won the war, and the world needed to move on.

As diplomats in Beirut talked, rebels in Syria were planning. A year earlier, figures in the Islamist opposition group Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) in north-west Syria had sent a message to rebels in the south: get ready.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Seriously mindblowing to me how you can have a military oppress its people like this and liberation not ending with killing like half of the population.

What about everyone who supported the military? Shouldn't they be seen as enemies of the rebels going forward?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I don't think they had much of choice. Most people are just doing whatever they can to not be imprisoned, tortured, or murdered. A policy of killing anyone not killed by the previous regime wouldn't be great for hearts and minds either.

[–] SulaymanF 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

History in the making. I’m thrilled for the Syrian people for the first time in over a decade.

[–] Pilferjinx 2 points 1 week ago

Me too! It's still too early to celebrate. HTS has a varied and unsavory history. Hopefully, they'll be less severe like they claim to be these days.

[–] Valmond 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You mean exactly what happened when Prigozin walked on Moscow?

Seems like dictators aren't tough at all!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Every regime built on injustice will fall eventually.

[–] marron12 10 points 1 week ago

People began to rejoice in their ability to speak freely. Furious debates over the country’s future ensued. In cafes, over cups of coffee and cigarettes, furious arguments were taking place about the direction the rebel-led government would take, voices raised as people tested the new limits of their freedoms.

Still, it was not easy to shake off the idea that the regime was watching. During an interview with a public-sector employee who preferred to remain anonymous, the employee paused as they were asked about their opinion about the new government. They excused themselves and went to the next room, where they threw up.

Returning to the interview with red-rimmed eyes, the employee apologised.

“You ask me if I’m afraid? Of course, I am afraid. I am 53 years old. And in 53 years, this is the first time that I am speaking freely,” they said.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

A Syrian activist was saying that paradoxically it might have been the best outcome for Syria's future. The rationale was that he will never now be a martyr or a rallying cry for loyalists. He will never evoke sympathy to his loyalists like Saddam or Gaddafi as the victim of angry haters. He's always going to be the rich guy who betrayed them and left them alone to face the nation.

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Putin will trade him in whenever it's profitable for Putin.

[–] ms_lane 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe.

I don't think he can afford to though, it's not about Assad personally, but his offers of comfortable Asylum for dictators are only good as long as he honors them.

Those offers are there to keep dictatorial Russian client states in line.

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts 2 points 6 days ago

True. I since found out Assad will be in the same region as some 4 or 5 other failed Russian stooges (Georgia, Ukraine etc). I guess Putin does need to keep that appearance up. Until he runs out of stooge states hes trying to deal with that is... can't be many left. Belarus?