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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also "I'm so sick of this question" well then put the answer somewhere that's indexed by search engines. Siloing knowledge into discord is an awful idea.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There was a man at CERN once who was sick of questions. His name was Tim-Berners Lee.

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros 17 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I hate the amount of software that is gated behind a Discord server.

No, I don't want to join your garbage Discord server just to use your software. Just host it somewhere else.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes! Discord is such a black holes for good knowledge, it's a crime

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Does Discord now offer the ability to save/fav comments to find them again? When I used it the last time, i was amazed how everything just scrolls by without a possibility to hold on to something.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Since being forced to use this terrible communication method in my teams and groups, I’ve been copy-and-pasting good Q&A threads into text files that I push to an enterprise GitHub repo for perma-store. At least that way other engineers and myself can either use GitHub’s search or clone the repo locally, grep it, and even contribute back with PRs. Sometimes from there, turn into a wiki, but that’s pretty rare. My approach is horribly inefficient and so much stuff is still lost, but it’s better than Discord’s search or dealing with Confluence.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago (19 children)

I fucking hate Discord. It's a walled garden. You need an account to see the content and you can't google shit. It might be great for real time communication, but I can't grasp how its usage has evolved beyond any of that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Lexical (rich text editor by Facebook) recently "migrated" their Github discussions to Discord... I have a question that I can see was asked on the discussion, as it appears in my search results on DDG, but I get a 404 when I try to open it. The fuckers deleted the discussions!

Of course, Discord only has poor-quality answers to that questions as it gets asked every week and maybe gets answered in a different way every time. Quality of discussion is much lower.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

The fuckers deleted the discussions!

This is a very Facebook-like thing to do. They are openly hostile towards everyone, including their users and advertisers. Shit stain of a company that constantly makes the worst decisions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I fucking love Discord and use it for as much communication as possible...

...but I also agree with everything you say here

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[–] QuazarOmega 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So much yesss, that drives me nuts, regardless of age!
I know that it's just hip and familiar to many, so I put with it with the few projects I'm really interested in and I can't say it doesn't work well, but please, why are there SO MANY??

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agreed. Trying to find answers for questions probably already asked on Discord is impossible.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago

And then some uppity moderator of some Discord channel for a niche mod for some game gets pissed at users for asking the same question repeatedly, when it's not obvious at all from any non-Discord source.

Looking at you, Our Summer Car -_-

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I could see the paradigm shifting over the years on reddit. They don't approach the internet as a knowledge base but a personal assistant chat. That's when I knew the value of the site was on the down swing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This year has been dramatic. I've seen a big increase of users with quality content doing deletes in protest of Reddit. And the shift to sites like Lemmy that are not as favored by search engines.

Reddit should have gone the other direction, become a non-profit, eliminate advertising, go back to open sourcing the code like they used to, and run on donations. Cut their staff of people that had anything to do with advertising and trying to market the platform.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I recently built a 3D printer where the entire community for it lives on Discord. Their website instructions are horrifically out of date because all of the current changes have been discussed at some point on Discord. What should have been a 2-4 day project turned into a 2-3 week project due to the garbage involved in trying to strain information out of a massive multi-channel group chat with terrible search.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It wastes everyone's time. The project maintainers have to keep answering the same questions, and the users don't have instant access to answers

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why would any sane developer want to use this system to "document" their project? Written docs have worked well for a million years and there's no need to change them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can even include them in your version control system and allow others to suggest changes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

And you can include separate ones right there in the root folder where the script lives. README.md renders out beautifully on GitHub.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

Discord != Support
Discord != Archive
Discord != Issue tracker
Discord != Update news distribution platform

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Kids these days:

StackExchange bad! Those elitist pieces of shit closed my question I did 0 research for and they were not nice.. Imma go and ask the same question on The_Next_Place, where there's still someone who hasn't gone mad answering it for the thousandth time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Always has been. Old forums were full of this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, StackExchange solved this problem. Concrete example, moving from ubuntuforums.org to AskUbuntu.com was a life changer. The time to find correct solutions dropped through the floor.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

I'm 50 and I have a 23 year old "RTFM" t-shirt.

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[–] FinalRemix 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just tried asking a question yesterday, and realized there's basically no way to save / bookmark / whatever a specific thing... it's seriously just a fucking chat room.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah it's literally just that. I still have no idea why it's used as some kind of database by so many

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

One wouldn't be too wrong to point at similarities between cancer and Discord in how it quickly takes over different systems (e.g. issue tracking, discussions, Q&A, documentation) and replaces them with a single non-functional thing (chat).

But, to play the devil's advocate, Discord seems to have some kind of a forum functionality, however I've never encountered those Forum Channels myself.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Requests to Discord are blocked by my company’s newest filters as “gaming”. 😶

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I mean, it's not wrong? Discord is still primarily a gaming app built as a replacement for TeamSpeak and Ventrilo. The non-gaming use cases are still in the minority.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's still a shit ruling. Back in the day they just blocked all .io sites so you couldn't play agar.io and so on. But all the IT sites we used were also blocked by that. So we had to go and ask the guy for every single one until he grew sick of it and opened it again

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Not wrong lol, it's a gamer chat. It tried to rebrand as a regular chat app, but the entire gamer aesthetic says otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think it can be useful for complex questions, but in my experience most of these discord servers are full of people asking very basic questions and very jaded people giving incredibly rude and cynical answers

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

This hits home. Discord is a terrible product I don’t know why anyone likes it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

It's admittedly quite good at what it was originally supposed to be: a voice chat service for playing games that's easy to join, use, and share. The troubles began when they started trying to pivot to be a general-purpose public internet space provider, because the platform was never supposed to be that and they've done absolutely nothing to support it.

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