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Luigi Mangione has been charged with murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO (abcnews.go.com)

submitted 2 days ago by return2ozma to c/[email protected]

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[–] tywarth 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really don't understand how they're charging him with second degree lmao

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Vs manslaughter?

[–] tywarth 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It was premeditated murder. The charge should be first degree. Second degree suggests he killed him without intent. I just wish he never got caught :(

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

In New York, for first degree the victim must be a cop, prison guard, first responder, judge or witness to a crime,
or
the murderer must be a burglar, contract killer, inmate for life, or terrorist.
There's a few other possibilities, but if you murder someone "normal" and it's your first time, generally it's second degree in New York.
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/125.27

First degree has a minimum sentence of 20 years and can get you sentenced to life without parole.
Second degree has a minimum sentence of 15 years and you have a chance for parole afterwards.

[–] tywarth 3 points 19 hours ago

Interesting! I'm from Canada so I keep forgetting that laws vary depending on the state haha. Thanks for the info!

[–] _lilith 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

they put you in a velcro smock like that when you are on suicide watch / in a medical observation unit in Jail

[–] halcyoncmdr 31 points 2 days ago

Well yeah, they obviously plan to Epstein him. The public response around this hasn't been going their way, they want to sweep it under the rug as quickly as possible.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hmmm...

Never seen "justice" this swift...

Fuck Brian Thompson

Also note the picture, I guess psy PhDs got the right angle here

[–] Fredselfish 18 points 2 days ago

I bet unfortunately so that ne will not make it to trial. The rich and our fucked up justice system can't let him get off. I swear it will be the most watch trial of all time. Also there will be a movie based on this hero life someday. I hope he walks. Hope he can bring to light just how fucked up the healthcare industry is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does this mean they got a grand jury to issue an indictment already? If so, disappointed that jury didn't refuse to indict.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you know people in New York and Pennsylvania, tell them to spread the idea of jury nullification.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That jury was picked...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Is it normally that fast?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

Grand jury my understanding is yes.