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Moe's Finale (Created by KiddieJay) (Warning: Covers Depression and mental health topics) (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by ryuundo to c/comicstrips
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22705232

This is just for me to let you guys know about Moe's Finale. I've been posting this comic on behalf of the creator on Reddit, but I hadn't posted it here for you guys to view. I have separated each issue of the comic out in links below, so you can go issue by issue. If you are still on reddit and you like this comic, I'd recommend following the comic on the r/moesfinale subreddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/moesfinale/

Issues 1 & 2

Issues 3 & 4

Issues 5 & 6

Issue 7

Issues 8 & 9

Issues 10 & 11

Issue 12

Issues 13 & 14

Issue 15

Issues 16 & 17

Issue 18

Issue 19 (The current Issue)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't quite remember Moe being quite so...buff! πŸ˜…

[–] fluckx 4 points 1 week ago

The last page of issue 19 explains that in the last paragraph

[–] Lost_My_Mind 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this a fan project, or an official simpsons thing? I haven't watched the simpsons in a LONG time. Did they kill Moe?

[–] ryuundo 8 points 1 week ago

fan project.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Was a really touching story that cut deep about serious mental health issues...

...until chapter 18 where the author goes off the deep end with reductive manosphere bs...

Gonna be a no from me

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

WYM with reductive manosphere bs? I feel like it was quite overboard but in it's essence it's grounded in reality. It's a bit hyperbole but that's the theme of the comic overall.

[–] _stranger_ 9 points 1 week ago

Exactly this. The exaggeration helps illustrate the point, it's not easy for men to find FREE help for these things, and a lot of those places are explicitly safe places for traumatized women, which for many women at their most vulnerable means no men.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

It reinforces the idea for men not to bother getting help in the first place - you're a man, they won't take you seriously anyway, they will call you weak, don't ask for help, just give up. That's the inner logic of clinical depression and the comic supports it.

And it's a really dangerous thing to imply because it could keep men further from the available support systems. It's discouraging. I'm not questioning weather those things could have been said by someone, but it kinda seems like the author took some horrible TERF talking points and went "I guess it will be the same in mental health".

[–] sir_pronoun 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, that was jarring. I wasn't expecting to be reading Moe Szyslak fan fic today 🀣 it seemed a bit all over the place and not quite focused, but that makes sense since the author was like 18 or 19, apparently. I was enjoying this a bit, but then the men's discrimination bs appeared - and while there IS stigma around men's mental health, the way it is handled here is bullshit 😬

[–] ryuundo 4 points 1 week ago

Kiddie has explained this further with people in relation to what happened in issue 18. As I mentioned, it was made when she was 18-19, so she had some strong opinions on the subject matter that have moreso mellowed out with time. Also, it is trying to show the hyperbole of Springfield as a place where Moe cannot easily find help.

Although, A bunch of the quotes mentioned in that sequence came from people she knows in relation to trying to find mental health services for men, so there is a grounding in reality there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah, that was really... weird.

[–] ryuundo 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Kiddie has explained this further with people in relation to what happened in issue 18. As I mentioned, it was made when she was 18-19, so she had some strong opinions on the subject matter that have moreso mellowed out with time and experience. Also, it is trying to show the hyperbole of Springfield as a place where Moe cannot easily find help.

Although, A bunch of the quotes mentioned in that sequence came from people she knows in relation to trying to find mental health services for men, so there is a grounding in reality there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

can't you invite the creator to lemmy?

[–] Caboose12000 6 points 1 week ago

this rocks! will you be posting future issues here as well? I dont wanna miss new issues but i also dont want to go back to reddit lol

[–] _stranger_ 5 points 1 week ago

This is fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Well, I’m a bit surprised by the premise at first glance but very intrigued. Seems like something I can’t read in one sitting, so I’ll save this for later.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wow, this is awesome. Especially the ~~initial rejection~~ conflict with Barney in 3&4 resonates with me.

I like that they both form a sort of codependent relationship based on their trauma. This sort of unstable relationship is the ground for some great relatable stories. I do hope that they can stick together after overcoming their trauma. That would be a really nice ending. A bad storyending, but the message would be nice: "Even this can be overcome".

Also 18 is relatable. Way overdone, kinda like Twitter but on the frontdesk. Though it's nice of them to warn people that they won't get help there. Wish some real places would adopt that honesty.