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President Biden pardons his son Hunter Biden (www.nbcnews.com)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The comments in this thread are completely insane. Nobody remembers anything, so let's check in on the history of pardons:

Bill Clinton pardoned actual criminal Marc Rich.

George H.W. Bush pardoned actual criminals associated with Iran Contra.

George W. pardoned Scooter Libby for obstructing a CIA investigation.

Trump pardoned Joe Arpaio who did racial profiling in contempt of court.

Trump is about to pardon everyone from Jan 6th.

Ford pardoned Nixon and Andrew Johnson pardoned basically the entire confederate south.

So if you're going to stand here and say that Hunter Biden's pardoning is a singularly unique, precedent-setting moment in American history signalling the downfall of democracy? I'm going to hand you a bouncy ball and some orange slices and tell you to go play in the corner. You are not a serious person.

Edit: And for the dipsticks here who think a "pre-emptive" pardon is new... Ford's pardon of Nixon was pre-emptive. So you're only like 50 years and 3 months out of date on that talking point. Oops.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Who cares? I don't like biden at all but this shouldn't make news just because Republicans are fixated on biden. Hunter biden didn't commit anything of value. Yeah sure, those in power can get away with things. Nothing new here.

[–] FlashMobOfOne 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I had a brother who was an accessory to a crime at 17 and went to prison for three years at 18, and that experience makes me viscerally angry that Hunter Biden is going to skate just because he's a member of the lucky sperm club. This is bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had a brother who was an accessory to a crime at 17 and went to prison for three years at 18, and that experience makes me viscerally angry that Hunter Biden is going to skate just because he’s a member of the lucky sperm club. This is

I've never understood the mindset of "I suffered so you should too". The most convoluted example in recent member was "I worked hard for my degree so we shouldn't forget student loans."

I don't like this way of thinking because it's about eye-for-an-eye justice and it's not interested in facts. Such as the fact that nobody ever serves jail time for Hunter Biden's offense.

I'm sorry for your brother, our justice system is broken. But of all the takeaways, "keep Hunter Biden in jail" is to me a bizarre conclusion to pull from that.

[–] FlashMobOfOne 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I’ve never understood the mindset of “I suffered so you should too”.

That is taking my point wildly out of context.

It would be far more fair to say: "Your guy got mercy. Mine should have too." And yes, the lopsided and wildly corrupt justice system is on full display here.

I'd also recommend watching the Daily Show's segment on the pardon. It's pretty clear from its contents that Hunter's crimes were extensive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Sorry but nothing was taken out of context. Your brother's unjust experience being thrown in jail is terrible, but it doesn't make it more right for Hunter Biden to have to go to jail. That's eye-for-an-eye. If what you really mean is Hunter being frivolously prosecuted was miscarriage of justice, you could say that.

But it sounds like you're specifically mad about the act of pardoning but you were 100% fine with him being jailed. You're welcome to edit your original comment to clarify that you support the pardon, if that's what you really meant this whole time.

Also it's funny you mention the Daily Show here, because I did watch that episode. That clip said (1) Biden said he wouldn't pardon originally, (2) in the news cycle context of Trump nominees, Dems could have lost moral high ground on law and order and (3) made fun of the 11 years timeline. It didn't recount any specifics on crimes, real or imagined, extensive or otherwise.

[–] clutchtwopointzero 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just wait until Trump pardons himself

[–] FlashMobOfOne 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't think that's going to be necessary after the SCOTUS ruling on official presidential actions.

But it's Trump. He might do that one day. After Biden pardoned Hunter yesterday, I 100% think he'll issue preemptive pardons for all of his family before his next term ends.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (15 children)

He could have abused his power like this to fix the justice system. Forgive student loans, Codify abortion. And all those other unfulfilled promises.

Instead Biden has fully destroyed the illusion of Democrat commitment to "justice" only to bail out a coke addict.

Both sides anyone?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Israel is violating the ceasefire mean while Bidens drumming up controversy to drown it out. What a pussy.

[–] FauxPseudo 25 points 3 days ago

Of course. We went from "Trump can totally pardon himself" to this and somehow this is going to make bigger headlines with the "law and order" Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (26 children)

Not a real democracy.

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[–] jaxxed 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even if you think that HB was or will be unfairly treated, look at the size of the ethical door that was just opened. Of all of the "norms" that could have been broken, this is the one?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Sir will you legalize mariuana and pardon all those black people who have suffered unfair trails"?

"Sir will you close the asylum detention camps pardon all those Mexicans people who have suffered unfair trails"?

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[–] HorreC 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Seems like they are dropping the idea they are not corrupt as the other team. Can only hope that the new idea that would go after the common worker can hold the mask on for a few decades.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

Why should he? It's already been made clear there is no law for the ruling class. Mind your place pleb.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

Never change, Clintonian dynasty swamp monsters.

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[–] IndustryStandard 7 points 2 days ago

The lamest of ducks

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