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[–] TheEighthDoctor 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

People who think Nuclear is very safe and impossible to fuck up forget they will have a government department called Doge being run by a fuckwit

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Nuclear plants are far from the only public hazard if he's actually going to go into places and derail them personally.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Yeah, because it'll tie budgets up for ten years building it, and in the meantime all the fossil fuel people can tap those final nails into our coffin while they line their pockets.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Perfect. Now that renewable technology is finally cheap and quick to build, the oil and gas lobby is trying to redirect attention to nuclear, which takes decades to build in most places.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

They can do whatever they want. They're still going to get undercut.

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[–] Wilzax 48 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If America hadn't responded to Chernobyl with fear of atomic power and instead adopted a "this is why communism will fail, look how much better we can do it" attitude, the climate crisis would be a non-issue right now

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

As an engineer, Chernobyl is terrifying. It was close to being 10x worse than it was. The thought that capitalism could do it better is the height of hubris. If you think your technology is fail-safe, nature (including humans) will find a better way to fail.

There are many reasons besides safety that nuclear makes no sense. Others have listed them here. But this recent hand-waving away of safety is frightening. Saying that our technology today is so much better while anti-intellectualism is running rampant. Saying facilities could always be staffed by experts while our political system is more unstable than ever. Thinking that we could store waste for 10,000 years when humanity has never built something that has intentionally survived a fraction of that time.

The downside of this equation is just too severe. Nuclear plants are uninsurable for a reason, and by default are insured by the public. That cost is ignored in the equation, because it's too large for even the biggest insurance conglomerates to consider.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Don't forget about three mile island. I think much spin on the Chernobyl situation can be attributed to the embarrassment of the self failure

[–] Wilzax 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Threee mile island was only a partial meltdown, and very little fission product was ever released to the environment. Nowhere near as blatant and drastic of a failure as what happened in Chernobyl.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

True, however it was embarrassing to the atomic lobby. It was very similar in his a little lack of oversight caused a huge crisis.

The scale of the repercussions was very different, yes and that was emphasized to put the three mile incident in a better light.

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