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Blizzard has announced that it will ban everyone that uses game-modifying software in Diablo 4, including simple mods.

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[–] Clone_IX 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Make an offline version where I can mod.

Or - even better - make a good game that does not rely on microtransaction bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It already doesn't rely on microtransactions. They sold over 10 million copies. It just has microtransactions anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

At the $70 minimum too, if I remember right. Deluxe editions, etc. were even pricier.

[–] BlitzKrieg2552 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“NO HAVING FUN! ONLY SPEND MONEY!”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

"Don't you people have phones?!11!"

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It took some level of self control for me to skip this game but seriously, fuck modern Blizzard. Seeing news like this makes me feel less like I'm missing out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Are there many online games that don't warm against the use of mods in this way? My experience is that they all tend to basically have some version of the "using mods risks a ban" stance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

To be honest, if you wait a year or two (or more) until it's discounted or even deeply discounted, it'll probably be more worth it anyway. I.E. compare the clusterfuck that Diablo 3 was at launch to the state it's in nowadays, which is "pretty good". Not amazing by any means, but worth the low price it sells for during a sale.

I was in the open betas for Diablo 4 and I have this to say: it's better than Diablo 3, and has the potential to be good with time. That said, I totally agree with your sentiments. Modern Blizzard is trash. Most of the OG crew have left already. They don't have the same soul as what they used to have.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To give more context, last week, the team behind TurboHUD released a version of this overlay tool/mod for Diablo 4. TurboHUD helps keeping track of your progression, your performance, and allows you to add quality-of-life improvements to the user interface. This mod was also available for Diablo 3, and a lot of gamers were using it.

A UX and progress tracker is getting people banned. How fragile is Blizzard? They're probably afraid this will somehow give people an unfair advantage for those leaderboards that won't exist for at least 6 more months.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They are probably afraid of players having any control over the game that they can't monetize.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I assume its less about what the mods do and how the mods are doing it. It's an always online game (whether you think this is a bad thing is a separate issue) and there is a PvP component, which means things are going to be more locked down from a mod/cheat perspective.

The article itself says the same thing.

In a way, this does not really surprise us. After all, we’ve been constantly saying that you should be using mods only when playing a game in offline mode. And, since Diablo 4 does not have an offline mode, PC gamers should avoid using even simple mods like TurboHUD.

[–] RivenRise 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't have any strong opinions one way or the other but it seems really odd for them to have this stance when WOW also has all of those things and modding is encouraged within the guidelines. Presumably they have experience in handling stuff like this and it shouldn't come as a surprise since a lot of their other games also have modding scenes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The sanctioned mods in WoW are the ones using the APIs explicitly provided by the dev team to be used by mod developers. If you try to create mods that work outside those APIs you are running the risk of being banned just as you would in Diablo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

To be "fair", given that for better or worse it's an Always Online game, it's easier to just say "NO MODS ALLOWED, END OF STORY" than to deal with the hassle of strictly defining what is and isn't kosher and dealing with the inevitable rules lawyering from people trying to argue how THEIR MOD is special and doesn't break the rules.

But yeah, f*ck ActiBliz

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

My decision to boycott these assholes just looks better and better.