this post was submitted on 09 Nov 2024
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Pleasant Politics

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This community is watched over by a ruthless robot moderator to keep out bad actors. I don't know if it will work. Read [email protected] for a full explanation. The short version is don't be a net negative to the community and you can post here.

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UniversalMonk has been evading the bot's ban on him by posting from new accounts. That's ban evasion, which on most instances leads to an account-level ban, as far as I know.

I made a report, but just in case it blended in with the noise, I'm posting to let admins know that he's now ban evading from these new accounts. As much fun as he is to interact with, and a good test for the bot's throwaway account detection, I think Lemmy will be improved by nuking these accounts.

The accounts are UniversalMonk at lemm.ee, slrpnk.net, and sh.itjust.works. The first two ban evaded in [email protected], the last one is merely connected to the person who did that.

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I think I'll make separate posts to the meta communities for the other two servers. I'm not sure which admin is appropriate for this.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

@[email protected] I don't know where to put this for sh.itjust.works, so I'm picking an admin at random.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Their main account was banned on their home instance lemmy.world, hence it is debatable that this is intentional ban evasion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

This is kinda a fundamental question/issue of the fediverse though right? If you can just hop instances constantly, even if you use the same name, the mods wanted you out, for a time at least. So popping back up like a prairie dog certainly goes against the community action

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

They were banned from [email protected] ages ago, and just now starting posting new stuff there under new accounts.

You could be charitable and say that they probably didn't understand how Pleasant Politics works, and had no idea that they were banned.

Or, you could say that this user has such a clear pattern of badly-intended participation that this is clearly in the spirit of ban evasion regardless.

To me, it would be different if they were coming with a post apologizing about trying to antagonize the whole community, and promising to be less toxic in their future interactions, and asking for a second chance. They're not doing that. The fact that they're not even bothering, just saying that they plan to continue the same obnoxious conduct as before, trying to innocently claim that they didn't mean anything by it, and avowing to skirt carefully within the letter of the law, would mean that common sense would motivate a ban regardless and they don't deserve any extra leeway when rules are broken, even if it was honestly unintentional in this case.

It's up to you. In my opinion no good can come of having this person involved for as long as they really want to defend their right to troll, but it's up to you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

We contacted all of the instances where we knew he had bans before granting him membership. In the future I'll keep you updated on similar controversial choices so you can better protect your community. Greenlighting him may have been a mistake, but we didn't have sufficient information to gauge the seriousness of his antics. He's definitely not a bot or a spammer, and wasn't trying to conceal his identity so we're giving him the benefit of doubt.