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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)

1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here

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as well as condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.

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Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

kamala was not pro corporate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 minutes ago

What the actual fuck are you on about

[–] Dkarma 3 points 23 minutes ago
[–] StupidBrotherInLaw 3 points 37 minutes ago

Lol, good one mate

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

only as much as every politician since Clinton

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

we actually had some monopoly busting action going which is now going to be in the shitter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Monopoly busting is good for the other corporations. Just because a company does anti-consunmer behavior doesn't mean they aren't also get screwed by another company's anti-consumer behaviors.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

yeah just like adequate tax and regulation is good for rich folks. thats the thing. not having monopolies is good for society in general.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Almost as if they are doing it on purpose and are just the more culturally liberal of the two Wall Street parties... 🤔🤔

[–] TwoBeeSan 29 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Someone like AOC and Bernie will never be allowed anywhere near actual power. God damn money.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 hours ago

They don't care about winning. They care about being cool at the right DC cocktail parties,which they have achieved by extracting their own base from the party in favor of a war criminal who left office with 13% approval.

[–] UsernameHere -5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (4 children)

The right won. They had more votes because many who voted democrat in 2020 voted red. How does going further left change that outcome?

If voters wanted politicians that are further left then wouldn’t they have voted for the politician that is furthest left?

I think most people just voted republican because they experienced inflation under Biden and dont understand why.

[–] Dkarma 2 points 21 minutes ago (1 children)

This is factually false. Trump received no more vote really than he did the last 2 times. Dem voters simply stayed home.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's not soorts teams. Going further left means reaching rural people and poor people. A lot of the working class just isn't aware of what left and right mean. If the left let's republican dictate who is taking those ppl's side this is how it's auways gonna end. Posh elitism has failed yet again

[–] UsernameHere 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

There was an election between an independent union leader and a career politician in Nebraska and the career politician won by a landslide. How do you explain that?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

One example does not a rule make, and in the US electoral system money (and the party affiliations that bring it) speaks loudest of all. Maybe going further left wouldn't work, but going further right certainly hasn't. When Harris first emerged as the candidate she had such a swell of support, as she moved further right she lost it.

[–] TheBat 1 points 13 minutes ago

One example does not a rule make

Missouri voted to overturn abortion ban and voted for republicans.

Florida nearly voted for abortion ban and voted for republicans.

Americans have shown they want change but they also don't understand how that can be achieved.

Apparently Biden/Harris chose not to push 'make things better' magical button in the Oval Office so they're getting the boot and the guy who shat the bed earlier is now getting the opportunity to burn the house down.

[–] UsernameHere 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Voters are saying it is because of inflation. Not because she didn’t go further left.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 minutes ago

And non-voters didn't get to have an opinion or seat at the adults table because they enabled fascism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Nebraska isn't a homestead of liberal ideals?

[–] UsernameHere 9 points 3 hours ago

Neither is the entirety of America.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

How does Bernie win again and again then?

[–] UsernameHere 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

He hasnt been able to win outside of Vermont. Even when he lost the primaries he it was because he didn’t have enough votes.

[–] Dkarma 0 points 20 minutes ago (1 children)

Well he did until the DNC scuttled his momentum with spoilers like Clinton and biden

[–] UsernameHere 1 points 14 minutes ago

He didn’t have enough votes before the DNC got involved.