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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

This author makes it sound like its impossible and unthinkable to use a phone without google spy services. Newsflash, its not.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One wonders if dropping Play Services support is enough to motivate a user who is already sufficiently determined to use a phone this outdated.

[–] kadu 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From my experience, those aren't users determined to use outdated smartphones.

These are the super shady cheapo TV boxes that are essentially an underpowered SoC + Android 4.4 + a launcher. Or many Chinese handheld gaming devices.

Users probably do not stick around with 4.4 given how many important apps would not work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

As far as I know it's also used on embedded devices like barcode scanners at Tesco. Those either run Windows or Android. Ancient versions in both cases. Unfortunately it seems the model number disappeared from my search history so I don't know which versions for sure. I think it's either Android 4.4 or Windows CE.
But in those cases the Google Play services probably don't matter.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Nearly 2 years ago (Sept. 27th 2021) they removed sign-in support for Android versions <= 2.3.7 and nearly 3 years ago (Sept. 20th 2020) they removed YouTube web app support for Android versions < 4.0.

The latter is kinda sad. That YouTube web app opened videos in the browser's video player and it didn't support Ads. Yep, you didn't even need Ad blocker.

Unfortunately I don't have the original screenshots, just this image I quickly put together for something, but it partially shows the simple (good) YouTube UI:
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

When I made my first app, KitKat had just come out, and Google was one of the better companies out there.

Man, things have gone a long way down some rough paths

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

About time. That seems like an eternity compared to Apple products.

I started out with Apole products and left long ago. So maybe that changed.

[–] dcellini 3 points 1 year ago

I have good memories of using KitKat on my first gen Nexus 7 and my Galaxy S III. It was rock solid, especially in its stock form.