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[–] BURN 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Worth it for the shot

Camera operators are going to often be the last ones in unsafe positions because we still haven’t solved the remote camera problem yet. There’s too much latency to have the cameras that whip pan running on the remote tripods used in a few other series.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Object tracking has been a solved problem for a few decades. Tracking a predictable moving object against a static background is trivial. Any small latency can be compensated with predictive control.

I bet the problem is more related to the logistics of Formula 1. Traveling all the time to circuits that have different mounting locations and constraints. At that point, it’s just more practical to hire a cameraman.

[–] BURN 7 points 2 months ago

Tracking can be done, the rest of everything can’t, especially at F1 speeds.

Even professional grade cameras and lenses can’t reliably track f1 cars like that automatically. Photographers still frequently have to use manual focus to capture f1 cars due to the speed, and photography autofocus is much more advanced than video. Not to mention that TV cameras are fully manual in 99% of cases.

It doesn’t really make sense to change them, and even the closest thing we’ve got (the formula e remote cams) are still not fully capable of handling fast corners, straights or a few other things.

The logistics definitely don’t help either. If they didn’t have to setup and tear everything down every week it might allow for a bit more permanent infrastructure, which is going to likely be what’s needed for something like that.

[–] itsathursday 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’d be more than fine with some less whipy pre canned motion that accommodates far more cars per screen than the stupid zoom setting and motion they have now

[–] BURN 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The sponsors unfortunately aren’t. The whole reason it’s the way it is was to give sponsors more screen time

[–] itsathursday 5 points 2 months ago

I’ll be sure to buy more… checks notes… “Aramco” next time I am at the store. Fuck advertising.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Just out a 1 meter cable behind the camera, nonexistent latency because it's just 1 meter but keeping the operators safe behind the protection

[–] donuts 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I thought the slow mo of Tsunoda flying backwards while the rest of the grid was braking for the corner was a really cool shot, but this is too close for comfort. Aren't they supposed to keep it within the fence?

[–] BURN 4 points 2 months ago

iirc these cameras stick out because you can’t really get the shot down the front straight from inside the fencing.

I believe most other tv cameras are this way on most circuits too

[–] Psythik 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is seriously no one going to link to the video from that camera?

[–] RizzRustbolt 5 points 2 months ago

As soon as they finish editing out all the expletives.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Code Brown in turn one!

[–] ProjectPatatoe 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This seems unnecessary. 180ish degree lens, 8 or 12k sensor, solved no? We have security cameras that are good enough, surely we can just design a camera for this purpose.