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Land Value Tax

From Wikipedia:

A land value tax (LVT) is a levy on the value of land without regard to buildings, personal property and other improvements.[1] It is also known as a location value tax, a point valuation tax, a site valuation tax, split rate tax, or a site-value rating.

Land value taxes are generally favored by economists as they do not cause economic inefficiency, and reduce inequality.[2] A land value tax is a progressive tax, in that the tax burden falls on land owners, because land ownership is correlated with wealth and income.[3][4] The land value tax has been referred to as "the perfect tax" and the economic efficiency of a land value tax has been accepted since the eighteenth century.[1][5][6]

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Most taxes distort economic decisions and discourage beneficial economic activity.[14] For example, property taxes discourage construction, maintenance, and repair because taxes increase with improvements. LVT is not based on how land is used. Because the supply of land is essentially fixed, land rents depend on what tenants are prepared to pay, rather than on landlord expenses. Thus landlords cannot pass LVT to tenants, who would move or rent smaller spaces before absorbing increased rent.[15]

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LVT's efficiency has been observed in practice.[18] Fred Foldvary stated that LVT discourages speculative land holding because the tax reflects changes in land value (up and down), encouraging landowners to develop or sell vacant/underused plots in high demand. Foldvary claimed that LVT increases investment in dilapidated inner city areas because improvements don't cause tax increases. This in turn reduces the incentive to build on remote sites and so reduces urban sprawl.[19] For example, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania's LVT has operated since 1975. This policy was credited by mayor Stephen R. Reed with reducing the number of vacant downtown structures from around 4,200 in 1982 to fewer than 500.[20]

LVT is arguably an ecotax because it discourages the waste of prime locations, which are a finite resource.[21][22][23] Many urban planners claim that LVT is an effective method to promote transit-oriented development.[24][25]

Georgism

Georgism (otherwise known as geoism) is an economic philosophy holding that the economic value derived from land, including natural resources and natural opportunities, should belong equally to all residents of a community, but that people own the value that they create themselves.

Most Georgists support:

The overall goal of Georgism can be summarized as follows: to eliminate rent-seeking and monopolism so that the economy can be free, fair, efficient, and prosperous for all.

The Georgist paradigm crosses the left-right political divide. This means that there are statist, anarchist, progressive, and conservative Georgists.

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[–] glimse 11 points 3 weeks ago

Who are these people in the crowd supposed to represent? I can't figure out who would celebrate affordable rental pricing and also get angry about new construction

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There are already millions of empty homes. How about make it illegal to hoard housing and make shelter a right? How about making it illegal to artificially drive up demand by creating false scarcity?

[–] mojofrododojo 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Corporations shouldn't be allowed to buy up housing.

https://medium.com/@hrnews1/report-44-of-all-single-family-home-purchases-were-by-private-equity-firms-in-2023-0c0ff591a701

also, this is a fascinating look at the paradox: vast amounts of housing has been built in the last 40 years, but, growing populations and landlords.... https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/mar/19/end-of-landlords-surprisingly-simple-solution-to-uk-housing-crisis

[–] Red_October 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Even taking you at your word, just building more houses wouldn’t solve the problem unless the other existing issues are solved first. There are already more than enough houses, several times more unoccupied houses than there are homeless people in fact. If you just make it easier to build more, those new houses will just end up in the same situation as the existing lot: bought up by corporate groups as investments, held ransom by landlords, and generally NOT made available to consumers who want to buy a home.

So yeah. You’re gonna see some pushback if you’re only making that second argument, all that will do is make the investor class richer without solving any problems.

[–] JamesFire 2 points 3 weeks ago

There are already more than enough houses, several times more unoccupied houses than there are homeless people in fact.

A huge chunk of them are not where people want/need to live though.

Vacant housing in Detroit doesn't help people living in SF

[–] thesporkeffect 2 points 3 weeks ago

Not mutually exclusive

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You want to increase sprawl? This is how you increase sprawl.

[–] Fried_out_Kombi 3 points 3 weeks ago

Nah, I want infill development and densification. Currently, NIMBY land use policies such as single-family zoning make it literally illegal to build anything denser than a detached single-family house on the majority of urban land in the US and Canada, which leads to endless suburban sprawl, a severe housing crisis, and a near-complete dependence on cars.

Get rid of these NIMBY land use policies, and people will be able to build denser, less sprawling, more transit-oriented cities.

Today the effect of single-family zoning is far-reaching: It is illegal on 75 percent of the residential land in many American cities to build anything other than a detached single-family home.

That figure is even higher in many suburbs and newer Sun Belt cities, according to an analysis The Upshot conducted with UrbanFootprint, software that maps and measures the impact of development and policy change on cities.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/18/upshot/cities-across-america-question-single-family-zoning.html

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

lmao, it'll do literally the opposite

[–] gusgalarnyk 0 points 3 weeks ago

Hate that deportation is brought up as if it's an actual problem compared to landlords existing, zoning, and a lack of skilled laborers.

Immigrants are a net positive to society.