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[–] [email protected] 21 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

obligatory 🐧 that must be in every thread

[–] [email protected] 18 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

hahahahahah does anyone really think microsoft cares? their money is in business with all the big players already deploying 11 at least in modest amounts.

nothing stopped them when windows7 was still functional and they were pushing the tpm requirement, i dont see a difference here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago

Their money is now in azure. Os and app suites are a declining business, but they help with azure lock in.

[–] Upsidedownturtle 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'd guess that major UI revisions are a big reason for average users. People don't like having to relearn how to do something or find a setting. If M$ implemented a legacy UI setting that by and large mimicked the interface and controls in W10 they'd clear a major hurdle preventing less technologically inclined users from upgrading.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago

My guess is that the average user doesn't care at all and just clicks away update notifications because they are annoyed by them

[–] just_another_person 9 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Lots of people moving to Linux over Win11 anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, right. πŸ™„

[–] DaddleDew 14 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

A lot do myself included. But not enough to matter. Most ordinary Windows users don't even know what Linux is or understand why they should care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

Exactly - not enough to matter so not a lot.

Enthusiasts willing to get out of their comfort zone in whatever topic we choose are rare like kryptonite. The fact that you know 10 people, or a 1000 is by no means a lot considering the number of PC users.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Bring Windows 12. Windows 11 is terrible.

[–] trespasser69 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Windows 12 will be even worse

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Yup...Windows 12? The evil monkey's paw demon is like, "I'll give you that wish for free."

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

β€œOn Windows 10 PCs without an ESU subscription, however, any security flaws found from that day forward will remain unpatched, making those PCs increasingly vulnerable to online attacks.”

β€œWindows unpatched […] increasingly vulnerable to online attacks” is a facetious statement since the operating system is inherently malware.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

My question is this: Do Microsoft ship crap-infested versions to people who could make their lives uncomfortable, like, say, intelligence agencies, or do those agencies take a crap-infested version and have their IT security strip all the crap out?

Because if I was in charge of an intelligence agency I'd be asking - with dangerous smile - for the crap-free version, turn IT loose on it anyway and then be, shall we say, horribly invasive to Microsoft if there's anything still left in it.

... and if I wanted Windows, I'd want whatever the end result of that is.

On the other hand, maybe this has already happened and that "horrible invasion" is the cause of all the spyware crap in the consumer release.

Sigh.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 18 hours ago

Both. The enterprise edition has less crap, but most big companies will use custom images and group policy to decrapify it further. I do the same thing at home since I used to be the guy doing it at work. I don't get any of the copilot or recall bullshit.

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