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[–] just_another_person 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Lots of people moving to Linux over Win11 anyway.

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[–] Upsidedownturtle 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd guess that major UI revisions are a big reason for average users. People don't like having to relearn how to do something or find a setting. If M$ implemented a legacy UI setting that by and large mimicked the interface and controls in W10 they'd clear a major hurdle preventing less technologically inclined users from upgrading.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

My guess is that the average user doesn't care at all and just clicks away update notifications because they are annoyed by them

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My question is this: Do Microsoft ship crap-infested versions to people who could make their lives uncomfortable, like, say, intelligence agencies, or do those agencies take a crap-infested version and have their IT security strip all the crap out?

Because if I was in charge of an intelligence agency I'd be asking - with dangerous smile - for the crap-free version, turn IT loose on it anyway and then be, shall we say, horribly invasive to Microsoft if there's anything still left in it.

... and if I wanted Windows, I'd want whatever the end result of that is.

On the other hand, maybe this has already happened and that "horrible invasion" is the cause of all the spyware crap in the consumer release.

Sigh.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Both. The enterprise edition has less crap, but most big companies will use custom images and group policy to decrapify it further. I do the same thing at home since I used to be the guy doing it at work. I don't get any of the copilot or recall bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No.

For Enterprise users they offer LTSC versions (bare minimum version of the OS) with extended support, and national agencies are able to get the source code of Windows under the program Shared Source Initiative.

Network traffic can be monitored, so a private intelligence agency also could watch any unwanted calls made solely by the OS and block them accordingly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Bring Windows 12. Windows 11 is terrible.

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[–] Sam_Bass 5 points 1 month ago

does it take a year to build an OS that doesnt track/sell you and try to hide its doing so?

[–] trespasser69 4 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Guys, is it the beginning downfall of Windows after October 24, 2025? 🤔

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