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Installed Linux last month so I think I'm safe
this post was submitted on 22 Oct 2024
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At work or at home?
Both
How did you do it at work? I've heard of people deploying Linux in a organization but I'm curious of how you did it? What tools are you using?
I'm not in a position where that would be remotely viable but I find it cool anyway
Only 11??
Then I’m fine; I’m running 2000.
Well my organization uses Windows 11 with exchange 2008.
Just kidding but I've heard of dumber things.
I once had a client who didn't want to buy new Office licenses for their brand-new Server 2008 terminal server, so had us install an old copy of Office 97 they had lying around. Surprisingly, it worked.
lol. Yeah actually my next project is that. Moving to 2019…. Ug
You could also go Office365
I upgraded from Windows XP to Vista after the 2nd servicepack fixed most of the shit. By that point it was a tolerable OS.
I am currently hoping for a major service pack next year to fix all the stupid shit they did in Windows 11.
You know kind of like when they fucked up windows 8, attempted a quick fix in 8.1 and finally fixed it in win10.
Of course they are at 4 major updates with win11 and it's still shit so the hope is very thin.
I can understand if you would want to delay on a personal machine. That's your call. However, I am of the opinion that you should not gamble the business on it. You should not have any EOL devices in use, period. (Unless it is properly airgapped)
You should not have any EOL devices in use, period.
every business still running custom software on XP machines, press X to doubt.
What do you mean? We just migrated that software to a Windows XP VM running on Windows 7! That was just 15 years ago, it'll be good for another 15 for sure.
You don't connect those to the outside world
Imagine not having windows 10 support until 2027
-This post made by LTSC Gang
... Go on...
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/release-information
Windows 10 21H2 LTSC recieves support until 2027 December.
| Version | Servicing option | Availability date | Latest revision date | Latest build | Mainstream support end date | Extended support end date |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2021 (21H2) | Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) | 2021-11-16 | 2024-10-08 | 19044.5011 | 2027-01-12 | 2032-01-13 (IoT Enterprise only) |
That's if you aren't forcefully upgraded to windows 12
The nice thing about LTSC is that you aren't ever forced into anything. It only receives security updates. No new features.
Wimdows 11 broke my laptop's built in screen support, so it's long overdue for a Linux upgrade. I just can't decide which-- I like what Steam did with Arch, but I tried Manjaro and it was kind of ok until I borked it messing around as one does. Once I can decide a distro though, fuck Windows.
Manjaro is notorious for getting borked. If you feel you're able, pure Arch is way better.If you want arch based OS, but with less hassle, I hear endevourOS is good.
As for Debian flavour, Linux Mint is a good choice for begginers, many people also stand behind PopOS.
Ubuntu used to be the top choice, but people should probably avoid it now, as Cannonical makes some controversial choices.
Good luck!
I'm digging zorin.
I have been off windows at home for almost 10 years now, I’m really dreading the day when our office computers have to be “upgraded” from 10.
Just don't wait till last minute. If you need to set a bunch of group policies go for it but you can't safely stay on Windows 10
Not my farm, not my pig. Gonna be attempting to steer my project requirements over towards the Linux side.
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What will happen afterward? My cpu isn't supported.
You don't get security updates.
You can get something new, install Linux, or you can also just choose to not care.
I recommend against that last one heavily
What would reasonably happen if you just don't?
Realistically? Nothing. So many things have to go wrong for you to get a virus or some other form of malware. Your web browser and other software will continue getting updates for at least a little bit after the OS is EOL. Windows 7-8.1 has only just started losing software support in the last 1-2 years.
First your OS needs a vulnerability, then the software you're running needs to have a vulnerability, then you need to run said software, then you need to run said software and do whatever it is that can be exploited (or just run some infected software). Every once in a while you'll run into exploits that need no interaction at all, and that's where you can really get screwed. Windows had one the other day with ipv6, but that requires your firewall to be set to allow all ipv6 connections in which unfortunately a lot of them do. But even then someone has to have tried reaching you out of the 72 kajillion ipv6 addresses out there.
That said unsupported devices are also a risk to supported devices. Say there's an exploit like the ipv6 one and device A gets infected. That malware could then use other tricks to affect supported devices that haven't been patched yet, or there isn't a patch for it.
I use a ton of unsupported devices, but only intermittently, and not for anything important. The likely hood that I'm getting a virus on Mac OS 9 is so incredibly small. Plus I'm not checking my bank account on that thing. I would not do anything at all important on an unsupported machine, and if it HAS to run I'd quarantine it in it's own vlan so it can't affect the important things.
I’m using Linux now for a long time as my daily driver and for all the important stuff.
Games though I still end up using windows 10. My cpu doesnt support 11 and there’s all that crap of copilot recall and whatnot that I’m not interested at all to have on my pc.
Hopefully playing the occasional game won’t be a massive issue because I’ll have to go windows 10 with no security updates then.
Gaming under Linux is getting better and better. With all the work Valve has put into Proton, the list of games which don't run has been shrinking.
Same boat. Linux as DD and w10 for games. Without respect to windows fuck w11. I'm not interested in their macOS-like system.
Hello future Linux user
You just stop getting updates.
And we all know how secure Windows is, so I really don't recommend that.
No secure updates never lead anywhere good. Will it be doomsday? No probably not. However, the malware authors are going to target Windows 10 as much as they can because it will become an easy target the longer it goes unpatched.
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https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links
no u runs
Ah yes, pirated software. What could go wrong. It is literally the OS itself.
I also don't support running windows 10 instead of Linux, but massgrave is very reputable and I'm pretty sure you can hash the ISO to be certain it's the same as an official windows LTSC release
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Is IoT LTSC a viable replacement for a Pro install in a home enviroment? I do a lot of remote desktop work to access the machine. It's either that or Linux with Proton to emulate Windows must haves at home.
Sorry for really late reply.
You can practically use built-in RDP in IoT LTSC as I have tested on my qemu install.
Free patches are over?
It's been close to 10 months since I fully switched to Linux. I am running Arch on all of my devices. Server, laptop and desktop. Desktop I have borked few times, but no worries since I dont store any critical data on the drive. Only OS because of this. I know I will bork it in future too, but I like to learn new things and Linux is the best choice for that.
Convinced my gf to also switch to Linux, but we are still trying to find a more stable distro for her. I feel like installing Fedora or MX Linux for her.
Fedora is great