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While Ms. Stein condemns both “zombie political parties” as tools of Wall Street and war profiteers, her campaign has focused largely on hammering Ms. Harris, blaming the White House she serves for relentless violence in Gaza and Lebanon.

And Democrats, as never before, are focused on Ms. Stein.

The party has prepared a negative ad blitz for the election’s final weeks, its first-such effort ever directed at a third-party candidate. Fearful that Ms. Stein might divert critical votes in places like Michigan, Democrats are also pressing their case on billboards plastered recently across swing states:

“Jill Stein Helped Trump Once. Don’t Let Her Do It Again.”

She dismisses the “spoiler mythology” that has come to define her mainstream identity, noting — accurately enough — that some of her supporters would never back Ms. Harris anyway.

She says that Democrats would do well to look inward, disputing that she bears any responsibility for Mr. Trump’s fortunes, then or now.

“Those conversations never go anywhere,” Ms. Stein, 74, said in a wide-ranging interview.

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[–] Volkditty 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No one ever asked her to start, either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Maybe not start but I'm sure there're groups that have encouraged her to keep running over the years. Eyes picture of her at dinner with Putin, other Russians and Flynn who Trump pardoned. Though I'm sure there're good reasons for her to be in that picture that aren't shady...I expect a lottery win about the time they make sense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I'm pretty sure plenty of people asked her to run as president, given she's the most uncontroversial candidate from any party and is more qualified to be president than pretty much anyone else.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I dunno about this shit I'm probably just voting PSL.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (5 children)
[–] FancyManacles 31 points 2 months ago (17 children)

To draw votes away from the Democratic party nominee at the behest of her Russian donors. NBC News Link about the infamous dinner.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I know, but what is she getting out of it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Money and a chance for power, obviously.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

The already successful medical doctor probably int doing it for money. She'd just run as a dem if she wanted money.AOC has 10x'd her net worth by grifting horny liberals that want to pretend they're left wing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Attention. Whether or not you agree with her, getting paid to cruise around the country telling people what your political views are is a pretty sweet gig

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

cruise

It sounds soul-crushingly exhausting

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[–] Xaphanos 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My take:

To demonstrate that there is a more leftist population in the US public than is regularly recognized and shift the entire discussion in that direction.

To create a strong alternative to the major pro-corporate parties that is more in line with the rest of the liberal parties around the world.

To oppose the highly organized far right.


No, I won't vote for her this year. But I can appreciate the above goals.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

To create a strong alternative to the major pro-corporate parties that is more in line with the rest of the liberal parties around the world.

This is not how you do this. You don't disappear and pop up for a few months every four years. That is not how a legitimate political party operates.

She clearly does not give a shit about making the Green Party a legitimate alternative.

[–] theunknownmuncher 3 points 1 month ago

FYI the green party is now openly admitting that their goal is to prevent Kamala Harris from winning the presidency.

The election has already started. Absentee ballots have been sent. We need to catch up rapidly. We need everyone here to get active. We need to be clear about what our goals are. We are not in a position to win the White House, but we do have a real opportunity to win something historic, we could deny Kamala Harris the state of Michigan. And the polls show that most likely Harris cannot win the election without Michigan.

https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/10/harris-vs-trump-spoiler-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud.html

GREEN = Getting Republicans Elected Every November

[–] theunknownmuncher -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

To not have the kompromat that Putin is holding over her be released publicly?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (17 children)

This is an interesting take

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

If first past the post was banned, this wouldn't be a problem

but it isn't so fuck her.

[–] donescobar 0 points 2 months ago

I’m tired of hearing about Shit Stein every 4 years

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