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While Ms. Stein condemns both “zombie political parties” as tools of Wall Street and war profiteers, her campaign has focused largely on hammering Ms. Harris, blaming the White House she serves for relentless violence in Gaza and Lebanon.

And Democrats, as never before, are focused on Ms. Stein.

The party has prepared a negative ad blitz for the election’s final weeks, its first-such effort ever directed at a third-party candidate. Fearful that Ms. Stein might divert critical votes in places like Michigan, Democrats are also pressing their case on billboards plastered recently across swing states:

“Jill Stein Helped Trump Once. Don’t Let Her Do It Again.”

She dismisses the “spoiler mythology” that has come to define her mainstream identity, noting — accurately enough — that some of her supporters would never back Ms. Harris anyway.

She says that Democrats would do well to look inward, disputing that she bears any responsibility for Mr. Trump’s fortunes, then or now.

“Those conversations never go anywhere,” Ms. Stein, 74, said in a wide-ranging interview.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I dunno about this shit I'm probably just voting PSL.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Don't you understand? You have to vote against Trump because he's a threat to democracy. This is proven by Dick Cheney and W becoming democrats. Now you may say "didn't I have to vote against W and Cheney because they were a threat to democracy for a decade?" To which I say, why do you hate our freedoms?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)
[–] Volkditty 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

No one ever asked her to start, either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Maybe not start but I'm sure there're groups that have encouraged her to keep running over the years. Eyes picture of her at dinner with Putin, other Russians and Flynn who Trump pardoned. Though I'm sure there're good reasons for her to be in that picture that aren't shady...I expect a lottery win about the time they make sense.

[–] donescobar -2 points 12 hours ago

I’m tired of hearing about Shit Stein every 4 years

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago (4 children)
[–] FancyManacles 19 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

To draw votes away from the Democratic party nominee at the behest of her Russian donors. NBC News Link about the infamous dinner.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Stein has already been cleared of colluding with Russia. Your image is ten years old.

The reason you might not be aware of this is the /Politics mods banning people who debunk it.

[–] FancyManacles 0 points 12 hours ago

You're right, it was 2015, but as a simple layman I was aware of Russian meddling by the time this dinner happened. So if Jill and the Green party weren't aware of how bad this would look, and how worthless an olive branch to Putin would be, then at the very least they're too incompetent to be worth a vote. Unfortunately I did not know about this gaffe by the time of the election and even voted for Stein in that election, which I still regret.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I know, but what is she getting out of it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Money and a chance for power, obviously.

[–] Xaphanos 9 points 18 hours ago

My take:

To demonstrate that there is a more leftist population in the US public than is regularly recognized and shift the entire discussion in that direction.

To create a strong alternative to the major pro-corporate parties that is more in line with the rest of the liberal parties around the world.

To oppose the highly organized far right.


No, I won't vote for her this year. But I can appreciate the above goals.

[–] theunknownmuncher 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

To not have the kompromat that Putin is holding over her be released publicly?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This is an interesting take

[–] theunknownmuncher -1 points 18 hours ago

I have no evidence to support it, besides her ties to the Kremlin that have already been widely reported on (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jill+stein+russia).

GREEN Party = Getting Republicans Elected Every November

[–] [email protected] -3 points 18 hours ago

To beat the duopoly