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there's osm, but that doesn't have the convenience of being able to just chuck in a place and have it tell me how to drive there, which I need if I'm at a red light and need to know how to get somewhere. ty :)

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

OSMAnd~ absolutely does have navigation. Fully offline to boot.

[–] SirShanova 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could I get this on PC, or would I need an android emulator?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

not sure about osmand but you can organicmaps on your pc

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I've been using this for hiking. Ditched my AllTrails subscription and haven't looked back. Highly customizable. Definitely worth taking a look.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And it doesn't work. You have to know an address, and even then sometimes it'll route you to the wrong location. Anyway, that was my experience using it for a few months. About a 20% success rate where I live.

[–] Anonymouse 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've resorted to using latlong to look up an address, then copy & paste the coordinates into OSM+. It's not great, but it works. I'm looking for something better so I can still use OSM+ and was hoping to find it here.

My ideal solution is an app that registers as a mapping app so I can tap an address and it'll pop up, look up the coordinates then push to the clipboard or push as an address and I can choose OSM+.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good tip. Until an app can reasonably look up an address, it's not a very good map/navigation app.

[–] Anonymouse 1 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't say that it's not a good app, but that it's a feature that hasn't been implemented yet. There's a lot to like. For me, full offline and being FOSS are the two big ones. It does get me where I want to go!

Since this post, I read another post about contributing to OSM to make it better, so I started with Street Complete, logging addresses, bus stops and answering questions about the places I go. With a copilot, I even went and entered all the addresses of houses in a smallish neighborhood, over 200 entries! I like to believe that doing that may help improve the address lookup for somebody.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

One thing I agree is that address lookup is terrible. There are times where I cannot find a place on Osmand that I check in google maps where it is, then go Osmand and move the view to the same location myself. Not practical.

But: routing to wrong location. Almost never, for me it works perfectly. A few versions ago the announcement to take a turn would come a bit late, might have been my phone, no idea. Works fine now. The only problem are road works in the city, Osm is not very current and it might route you wrong then, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Twice in a neighboring city i've been routed to the wrong location. They use street/avenue for ns/ew so maybe the map had them backwards. My input was correct and it found an address both times.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Weird, just dropping a pin on the map works for me. I don't use it a lot, but I just tried a dozen times at random and it worked every time.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Organic Maps has navigation

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

yeah it seems to be the best. kinda shit but I'm willing to lose some functionality to not have google

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I’ve never heard of that; I’m going to give it a try

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I daily-drive Organic Maps, works very well, uses pre-downloaded maps, & allows OSM contribution. Ofc it's reliant on OSM so may not work perfectly depending on the location

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Has to be organic maps.

I was a big supporter of OSM+ but its just too buggy to be reliable - My last trip it constantly said "keep left" when driving ( a topography bug apparently) And it has got the wrong route too many times.

Unfortunately organic maps relies on your phones TTS for voice navigation - and I can't seem to get that working with grapheneOS (even third party TTS)

[–] LunchEnjoyer 7 points 1 year ago

I Second this, Organic Maps is super stable, has good UI and is very detailed(even marks benches in parks where I live).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Does this support Android auto?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Magic earth is closed source but good privacy-wise. Come preinstalled as part of /e/os for android.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Also pre-installed with iodéOS.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apple Maps is the best replacement for Google Maps. None of the other options even come close, but it's only for Apple devices. Organic Maps may work for you but it depends where you are and you won't get traffic information and the routing is very basic.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Organic Maps is amazing! As it's OSM it is still missing some establishments that are listed in Google maps, but to compensate it has amazing hiking trails. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

While I have a graphene os phone this is one of the main reasons I won’t get rid of my iPhone just yet.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have to be honest, as much as I've degoogled my life, Maps is the one app I've yet to find good competition for. Every single alternative I've used has fallen short in some way, especially in terms of business details and street view, which are critically important for my work.

Maps is just too good, and it is the only Google product I still use (albeit through GrapheneOS with heavily restricted permissions and a dummy account.)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah hard to beat how much data they have

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Its one of those services where I don’t mind it since they use all that data to improve and personalize the experience. Its able to tell me exactly at a glance how long to get someplace because it knows where I am and where I live. It knows to recommend certain types of places based on where I’ve been, and it has an ENORMOUS userbase with tons of reviews for even the tiniest places. It will automatically update operating hours for stores etc by ‘robo-calling’ them and asking an employee greatly reducing the number of calls they take… on and on and on. Is it “creepy”? yeah maybe but honestly who cares.

I even have timeline turned on. It remembers exactly when I went someplace. Like I was at a car dealership 6 months ago and needed to find a receipt they sent me in my email that I couldnt find otherwise… Check timeline to see when I was there and reference emails from that day, there it is.

Also I weirdly consider the need that I might need to use it as an alibi someday.

I’m completely de-googled otherwise. The places I go just honestly aren’t and never will be that interesting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

i don't know how many times i've read this same question on Lemmy in only a couple of weeks. privacyguides@lemmy should pin this thread to top

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

would be nice if privacyguides.org added gps/napping to their website

[–] tartan 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Devjavu 2 points 1 year ago

I have it, and while I am not quite sure yet what they do with my data, you can run the app in offline mode.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

OruxMaps (android) supports several navigation methods, kml overlays, offline maps, various online and custom maps, good tracking, routes, gps, etc, etc. Waaay better than Google maps - although it can also happily use Google maps.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@milkytoast Magic Earth is nice, way better than osm and organic maps

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@VENMusica

I'm testing it out and find the search very slow, even after downloading the map for the area.

A second problem I'm having with Magic Earth (maybe it's all apps that use OSM) but it seems to use the county name rather than the city/town for some reason. If I have multipe towns with the same street in one county, I just get a list of locations that all look the same so I'm forced to guess.

I think my last issue with all the options I've tried except Here WeGo is they don't provide contact info or business hours. I tend to use Google maps for that feature more than directions

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think my last issue with all the options I've tried except Here WeGo is they don't provide contact info or business hours. I tend to use Google maps for that feature more than directions

You can use GMaps WV, or just Google Maps in a web browser, for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

how is it with data collection? that's my main issue

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