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I feel like the people getting upset over this are taking these hypotheticals of "young looking adults just wanting to be able to make porn equally and that technically the community did nothing wrong".

The problem is that just ignores the fact that pedophiles would definitely use communities like that as a "foot in the door" to a comminity that would naturally have a lot of closetted pedophiles. The issue isn't young looking adults making porn, the issue is a community based around youngest possible looking adults is naturally gonna attract and encourage pedophiles.

It's like they say, "all it takes is allowing one nazi in your bar for it to rapidly turn into a nazi bar".

What even was the community, I dont see any focused on CSAM, or appearing as it. Was it small breasts?

Lemmynsfw has been both cannibalizing itself and burning bridges with every other community. I don't think it'll be long before they topple down and its users scurry to the other established nsfw spaces, there's no way they can competently mantain a level of moderation, and that not counting what they want to allow, like what you found out.

Its good to have nsfw spaces, but so far Lemmy has not been shown to be a good platform for that (unless you're on the "no restrictions" type of user) so overall I'm glad with the action taken.

To me the community in question seems to be intended to be about cute/happy/wholesome nsfw content but I can see how that idea could be twisted by pedophiles who fetishize "innocence". But no matter what the intended nature of that community, lemmynsfw is host to a few other extremely awful communities, like one for posting pictures of people you know without their knowledge/consent, and it seems like the admins are either not interested or not able to moderate all of it.

Plus the federated timeline sorted by new is just clogged with bots on lemmynsfw spamming images from reddit

I don't have an issue with the defederation call, and transparency regarding decisions around defederation is very healthy and good!

However, one of the more complicated implications of Lemmy's federated structure is that defederation on instances is more of "everybody's business" than it is on Mastodon, since Lemmy instances host communities and not just users. I don't have much sympathy for free speech absolutists who feel the need to frame all defederation as "censorship" or some of form of tyranny, but since it is potentially splitting the user bases of communities on blahaj that folks on other instances have joined, it makes sense for folks on other instances to want their voices to be heard.

(Obviously, there are constructive and non-constructive ways to do that.)

This is also why the answer to everything won't be "just run your own instance." It's important that more instances have well-developed and transparent moderation standards both internally and externally, and users will need to be savvy about the moderation landscape when they choose what instances to start communities on. (This will be a little less loaded of a question if/when Lemmy gets the ability to migrate communities.)

I think there's a lot of "cross that bridge when we come to it" mindset amongst some of the bigger instance admins that is in the long run is much more detrimental than any one defederation call could be.

Hi, I’m not from your instance but I applaud this move.

Could you share the info with admins of other instances so they can potentially choose the same action?

I’ve been reporting their cartoon csam that they keep posting, but I guess if the admins are into that shit our reports won’t make a difference. Would dearly love to not have to spend half my day blocking shit, and any reminder to these pervs that their affinity for sexual abuse is not normal is a good thing.

Thanks Ada ❤️, good to know that those sorts of things are kept off blåhaj!

Good choice and thank you.

Editing to add, I read the post addressing this on the other instance, and the message screenshots between Ada and the nsfw admins, and the nsfw admin's ignorance sure looks willful to me. They're defending an nsfw community that had "child-like" as one of the adjectives they emphasize in the sidebar until after this defederation took place. Not acceptable.

FYI it's not directly related but there was a story in the Washington Post today about Twitter rival Mastodon rife with child-abuse material, study finds ... of course 90% of it came from a large Japanese site (presumably pawoo) but they also mentioned some originating on big mainstream sites; and some sites don't block pawoo, so it's potentially in their federated timelines. Here's the underlying report, Child Safety on Federated Social Media