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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As a guitarist this has inspired my new exercise regimen:

  • Switch Fitbit to right arm
  • Play more NOFX riffs
[–] saltesc 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Haha. I did a play through of the first Living End album and some Rise Against in the mix as well. I haven't played in a long while and slowly building back my punk speed.

I know I'll be there when I can keep up with Scott, playing all of Dude Ranch with no pause between tracks. It is VERY physically demanding.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Punk drumming goes so hard. It doesn't get enough credit. If you can do Dude Ranch with no pauses then you'll have earned my respect!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you can do ~~Dude~~ Ram Ranch with no pauses then you'll have earned my respect!

Amen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What the fuck did I just listen to

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I just put mine on the washing machine during the centrifugal cycle

[–] Wrench 16 points 1 month ago

Huh. There's an employee program that has small rewards for meeting exercise goals.

Time to break out Rock Band

[–] ThePantser 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As long as you move your feet to the beat then it's still accurate.

[–] saltesc 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah, needs work. Was on an E kit and did some scoring patterns. Right hand 98/100. Left hand 92/100. Kick 79/100. Oof. But I still need to adjust the pedal; I know, I know, blaming equipment, but it's new and I can feel and see it reacting poorly to my usual positioning. Hopefully dial it in over the coming days.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I noticed the same a while back and looked it up, and some website says 1 hour of drumming is about equal to 10k steps in burned calories. I don't know how accurate that is, but going by my sweat levels after 1 hour of drumming, I'm counting it.

[–] saltesc 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Haha, I can imagine it would be true, but would certainly depend on the fitness, style/genre, and technique.

Here's the heartrate graph to match post. I consider my technique very good at being conservative, but there's clearly times there I was playing something fast and furious that jacked heartrate (mainly punk-style rockabilly).

Edit: Can legit see where I played fast, thought, "Okay, need something easier." and did lower BPM before being drawn back into fast shit again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

A big caveat maybe that I've been making music for decades but only started playing drums a couple of months ago, so it's not going to be very efficient drumming + I'm a programmer, so my fitness is already very low :D

[–] dual_sport_dork 6 points 1 month ago

Riding my motorcycle off-road sets off mine. I made it top 35,000 "steps" one day when I am positive the real number probably should have been closer to 300.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

"drumming". Mhm... Not beating something else for sureee...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All you gotta do is play some Metal. I would imagine that the continuous double bass drums in stuff like death metal should probably get to marathon distance step count pretty quickly.

It'd be interesting to see one of these things on someone like Tomas Haake from Meshuggah.

[–] saltesc 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Haha I've grown up jazz trained and subsequently suck at double-kick and most metal in general. We have sheet music for our similar precision parts like metal, but mainly entire sections where you just ad lib on a minimalist setup, never sounding the same twice.

It's like, metal is Formula 1 and my code is World Rally Championship. Yeah, I can fling a car sideways through dirt, but introduce aero and grip, my brain never got exposed to that, so it struggles.

You can stop reading now, but I find this next part interesting if you're curious about drums...

I can use a double-kick better than your "average" drummer (being that the average drummer sucks at or doesn't know double kick at all), but no where near as fast and sustained over time as metal drummers. But, in jazz and Latin, I've learned heel-toe and slide techniques on a single to do brief bursts with one foot only. It's hard to explain, but effectively rocking and sliding the foot to catch the pedal bouncing up on each stroke to hit again. The result is it sounds like a double kick briefly bursting, but just one foot.

What's insanely impressive is metal drummers that apply this to both feet on the double kick mechanism. I imagine it takes a long time to get their bad foot up to scratch, but the result sounds impossible when you look at their leg movement.

An example (no slide though, as I don't think it's possible with double kicks) https://youtu.be/YnFU9IqCTIc?si=AZKXNRvcdXjKDbYg

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That heel toe technique stuff is black magic to me as a simple guitar player. I play in a metal band, and our drummer does that double heel toe technique, and it just looks like it shouldn't work, but it does somehow. Even being able to do it with a single foot version is insane.

I love jazz and have nothing but respect for Jazz drummers and musicians, in general. The insane amount of knowledge and practice required to play odd time signatures and be able to improvise is not lost on me.

[–] Frozengyro 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope you were playing a show and not keeping your neighbors up until 12AM.

[–] saltesc 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Electric kit haha. I have two acoustics but haven't had them set up for three houses now to respect neighbours. Finally got an e-kit because I couldn't handle not drumming anymore.

[–] Frozengyro 4 points 1 month ago

Ah nice, that makes sense.

[–] bulwark 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dang, you really blasted of at 8pm. How many calories an hour does drumming take?

[–] saltesc 4 points 1 month ago

I don't actually know. I stopped as blisters started forming, but could go a few hours longer. With proper technique, it's not very physically demanding despite how it appears.

[–] Lifecoach5000 1 points 1 month ago

Juggling does the same thing for my Apple Watch.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Damn, that's a pretty low step goal for a full day... 2700?

I thought the normal average for good health was 10k

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

10,000 was actually a fabrication. Benefits are greatest around 8700 steps.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Basically the benifits of walking (on lowering all-cause mortality) sort of plateau at 8700...

10k still isn't a bad metric to strive for.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

And it also was never all or nothing. I keep my goal at 6000 just because 10k (i didn't know about 8700) isn't realistic for me. It's still better than what I would walk normally.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't be intimidated though. If you're not regularly exercising, start with a smaller goal And increase at a rate you're comfortable with. Walking is a great activity and is great for your body and easier on your knees than running.

The point is to do more than you are now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What I appreciate about my Garmin is that it adjusts my step goals up and down to make them achievable. Miss my goal for the day? The next day is a few steps less. Hit my goal? The next is a few steps more. I get the satisfaction of reaching goals, but don't feel bad about myself if I miss.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I had no idea this was a thing, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It sounds like whoever said 10k rounded up. Doesn’t seem unreasonable imo.

[–] saltesc 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's just for office days because I do a lot of computer time. I dont pay attention otherwise and have a different watch I wear for my normal outdoor activities. It's three times thicker and has no space left for health-related sensors or a pedometer. But if this one approximates just 1km is 1,000 steps, I'm doubling down on not needing to care about steps outside of office days.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait 1km is 1000 steps sounds like some pretty big steps

[–] Krzd 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, normal step lengths are around 60 - 80 cm depending on height and pace

EDIT: obviously injured/elderly people are much lower, and running is much higher, which might explain the distance if OP's watch thought he was running

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Thank you for the elaboration OP!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Might be like Garmin where it automatically adjusts goal based on the historical data

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Totally true. Didn't think of that aspect

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I bet your neighbors love when you drum for four hours

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Are you unaware of the existence of electronic drum kits?

There's also just the fact that some people have rooms that are separated far enough from other residences for this to bother anyone. Most cities even have specific band practice spaces for rent, outside of residential areas.

Its weird to just assume that people have no consideration of others.