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This site would display the same sort of information as All Trails: descriptions, pictures, waypoints, information about trail dangers, trail maps, time to complete the trail, distance, elevation gain, hiking season, etc.


I apologize if this is not the right community for this post. If there is a more appropriate community, please let me know, and I will repost this there.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Let me introduce you OpenStreetMap, the wikipedia of maps

[–] Kalcifer 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Ah, my apologies, I wasn't specific enough in my intent for the post. I am looking for something akin to AllTrails -- you search for a trail, and the site provides you with all of the relevent information: descriptions, pictures, waypoints, information about trail dangers, maps (that's where OpenStreetMap would come in), time to complete the trail, distance, elevation gain, hiking season, etc.

EDIT: I have now updated the post so that it is more accurate in its intent.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Opened OsmAnd installed from F-Droid, enabled "hiking routes", checked one I've completed yesterday. It shows: name, operator, trail on the map, length, altitude over distance (graph), average altitude, total uphill climb, total downhill. Pictures might be available as a plugin, not sure; no season info or dangers info in sight. Hope that helps.

[–] Kalcifer 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I do agree that these features are very useful, and interesting, they are unfortunately not the type of service that I am looking for. I encourage you to check out AllTrails, so that you can see an example of what I mean.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm not arguing, I just wanted to save you time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Some of them can be achived with osm as even stated by the link commented by duncesplayed and this other wiki page, but not all of them unfortunately

[–] illectrility 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

OrganicMaps maybe? Probably not but worth checking out

[–] Kalcifer 2 points 1 year ago

That's a fine recommendation! Thank you!

[–] Chiron17 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like you want All Trails? But for free

[–] Kalcifer 1 points 1 year ago

Of course, few things in life are truly free -- presumably, such a service would be run by donations, and the community.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Maybe Wikiloc fits the bill here

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Komoot does that I believe but is not open source.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I believe there is! Have you tried https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org you just zoom somewhere and it will show you available trails.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

+1, I use waymarked trails, combined with https://brouter.m11n.de/ (which can show the trails) to get distances and elevation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks that is great find

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would maybe check out Hiking project if your in North America. It looks really similar to all trails, except you have to download particular areas. The drawback is that the user input is almost nonexistent on smaller, local trails. More popular trails have some good info though. This definitely seems like it has promise.

Then theres Farout (formerly guthook) - I've heard this app mentioned alot as the preferred way to navigate trails like the AP or CDT. It costs money, and it's not cheap, but you can download the app and continue as a guest and check put some of the free maps they provide.

[–] Bitswap 1 points 1 year ago

Second vote for hiking project.

I think it just matters where you live. I'm in the PNW and it has a ton of info on the local trails around me. Love that its offline too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's highly regional and depends entirely on where you live

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hi there, I was going to post this on your crosspost on [email protected] which is where I saw this first. I see that you're more of an end user rather than someone uploading this info, but I'm gonna dump my spiel regardless I'm afraid:

If you are going to put this info somewhere I would suggest you dump the info on OpenStreetMap. The information you put onto OSM will get used EVERYWHERE else- komoot, alltrails, Osmand, Organic Maps, you name it. And the license is permissive so everyone else can use it. All Trails (to take an example) is all very well and good but all the nice pics, all the info, all your time and energy gets put into their nice little closed website which they then use to make THEIR website better and nobody else's!

So at the very least, put the info you collect into OpenStreetMap first, and then elsewhere. There is a lot more info you can put into OSM than you may think at first glance. Width of trails, Trail difficulty, trail visibility, etc etc. All this gets put into tags. (even trail dangers if I remember correctly) This info then will improve the hiking experience for everyone using a mapping application around where you have mapped. (Everyone of course, except for people using google maps or apple maps, yuk!)

Now this extra bit is tailored more towards your original question, as an end user. The closest thing I can think of is https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/ as someone else put in here. The info, of course, comes from OSM. If the trail you are looking for isn't marked there, you can put it into OSM and it will eventually make it onto that website. (As well as Osmand, and Organic Maps, and Komoot, and... you get me)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I looked at options late last year and it's All Trails or some other smaller proprietary communities. Would be nice if there was a FOSS community, I'd be concerned if All Trails started taking all that data and charging for access.

[–] Kalcifer 3 points 1 year ago

I’d be concerned if All Trails started taking all that data and charging for access.

I share the very same concern.

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