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I have an old Mac Pro that has been collecting dust for years. Today I bought an SSD and install Debian on the machine. It works flawlessly.

Further reading revealed that there is an active community around the classic mac pros and thanks to their modular nature they can be fully upgraded. People even upgrade the CPUs in this thing.

So if you like playing around with a PC like the old days, that is also Linux compatible, a Mac Pro 5,1 seems a good choice. AFAIK you can get it for cheap and a decent upgrade won't break the bank.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I love the old Mac Pros and even built a trashcan setup for Debian a few years ago. But TBH, they use a lot of electricity for the processing power they provide. If you already have one or can get one for free, great, use it. Linux runs great. But I wouldn't go to OWC and buy something that would be outperformed by a fanless, low TDP machine these days.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Depending which version of the MacPro you have exactly, that machine from 2010 is around the speed, or slightly faster, than a Raspberry Pi 5 with 8 GBs of RAM these days. The problem is the energy consumption, not really a green machine to run.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah it's definitely not the best machine to get by any means. I'm waiting to see how it affects my next electricity bill :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I also discovered that these are pretty cheap and really upgradeable while looking great.

I would never buy anything from Apple new, but old Mac Pro or MacBook Pro are really tempting.

Converted my fiancée ´s 2012 MacBook Pro to Linux two years ago and it’s a great machine which shouldn’t be collecting dust.

Sometimes people underestimate the treasures they have lying around 😅

[–] SpaceNoodle 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh man, I gotta dust off my wife's old 2009(?) MacBook now. I think the battery might be toast, but hopefully there's enough of a cult following that I can find a replacement for that as well.

Update: 2007

Processor 065-6991 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory 065-6993 4GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x2GB
Hard Drive 065-7452 250GB 5400RPM HDD
Optical Drive 065-6998 SuperDrive 8X
Display 065-7039 MacBook Pro 17-in Hi-Res GL WS
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

It’s amazing how powerful a real workstation is even from fifteen years ago.

[–] emil_98 2 points 2 months ago

My dad has one from 2008 or 2009 with a swapped motherboard and firmware mod to 5,1 so he can run more recent mac versions. Also put in a r9 280 with custom firmware but somehow is still using all spinning hard drives

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're making me thing: can we still do that (change the OS to Windows or Linux) with the new Apple silicon Macs?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

The Asahi Linux project provides a Fedora-based experience for people using Apple Silicon. It works well for the most part but there are features that are still being developed.

As for Windows, I don't know of any methods to get Windows running outside of macOS, but many people utilize Parallels for Windows apps or the desktop experience.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't believe it works "flawlessly" and I'm tired of people exaggerating their experience in such a misleading way. There's always some hitches and I don't get why people basically have to cake their OS experience with makeup like this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It does work flawlessly, or at least I haven't encountered flaw. Why should I downplay my experience for people like you?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Because you're making stuff up. Literally every install of an OS has some little issue here and there-- but this is my mistake for assuming any Linux community could be humble enough to cut the BS and stop acting like Linux is a flawless experience. I'm out, keep hanging out at that ~5% market cap and wondering why folks don't flock over despite it being free.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I have most certainly had OS installs (from every vendor) that worked flawlessly for a while. Why are you pretending as if those don't exist?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not to pretend I know it all, but have actively been using Linux on desktops and normal laptops for years now and I do have to agree.

Those old Macs are actually quite hard to get working right (fans, touchpad etc).

It is not impossible, but it takes quite an investment.

But Macs aside, nowadays a lot of desktops ánd laptops install flawlessly though.