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Guidelines also stipulate teenagers should have no more than three hours of screen time a day

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say that screens themselves damage attention spans or anything, but when the screen is the tool to deliver the lowest consumable content imaginable, cutting out the screens is the way to go.

This recommendation is understandable, but as with anything moderation is key. Not just in terms of how much screen time you allow, but the type of content they interact with.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yup.

I've got two kids, the amount of time they get consuming content is limited, the content they have access to is only from my media server (so very curated), and occasional extras like crafting/drawing/etc when we are sitting next to them. And even that I'm moving to the media server due to the ads, which are impossible to really curate and can be very, very odd...

The physical presence of a screen being on is not an issue. Using it as a replacement for parenting is an issue. Especially under 2.

I just wish it wasn't so much effort to manage content that other parents could do it more easily.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We also have a media server, and I too wish it were easier to set up so more parents could have more control over the content viewed. As it is, I'm thinking to upgrade our machine so it can handle multiple streams both locally and from other houses.

The other parents we interact with like the concept of limited curation, but they lack the technical experience to get it set up and so they rely on Netflix, Prime, and Disney+. Maybe I'll get around to it this winter haha.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's what I do, nieces and nephews. They are a bit older than my kids, and their parents are not tech savvy.

I basically have a kids library for anything under PG, and I grab common sense media ratings for a decent estimate on appropriate age, and let them go from there. Then I use tags for what we find appropriate for our kids.

Some of them still use other things I wouldn't go near (YouTube kids, ffs that place is wild and weird), but that's their decision not mine.

FWIW I run mine off an 8th gen Intel, igpu for transcoding (though mostly I don't need to transcoded), on a little lenovo tiny workstation I picked up on the cheap. Storage is on my NAS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We have a Nvidia Shield so transcoding isn't needed for us either. Our server is on an old NUC with a fifth generation i3. Started overheating a year ago so I removed it from its case. It's running Windows though so now that the little one is back in school I might upgrade it to Mint and see if I can prolong its life.

Regarding YouTube, we have Smartube on the Shield, and have it configured to open to the playlists page, with our son having his own profile. This lets us set up playlists for him to watch that don't include any attention whoring videos and are (at least in part) vetted by us beforehand. Lately I've been considering adding the YouTube content to our server. Smartube is pretty tweakable though, I like it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

With no server-side transcoding, yeah the nuc is plenty, but I also run my media server (JF containers, to be specific) on Debian.

If you do end up needing transcoding, the newer Intel stuff is great. I'm considering arc actually for other reasons, but ideally anything skylake (for HEVC) or Kaby Lake (hevc 10 bit) on up is a rock solid choice, no external GPU needed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I appreciate the advice, I'll keep that in mind should I want server transcoding in the future.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All time with tech as a child should be limited and parents need to watch what they are doing. Just like the tv generation it is easy to let it babysit but it comes with a cost.

[–] taiyang 10 points 2 weeks ago

Three hours for teens? Does that include doing homework and such? At that age I was tinkering with C++, does that going as screentime?

[–] BradleyUffner 7 points 2 weeks ago

The screen isn't the problem. The content is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Not the first time in my life I've changed position based on evidence. Not the last.

The only reason to ask questions is to listen to answers, rhetorics be damned.

[–] Marthirial 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is a TV in the background playing Baby Einstein considered screen time? My daughter is 17 MO and she gets interested on the songs but then goes back to playing. Is she ruined? 😭

[–] CluckN 13 points 2 weeks ago

It’s over, her first words will be, “we need to stop the Rizzler from flushing charged lemonade down the skibidi toilet” and you will be the sole blame.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If I was limited to 3 hours of screen time as a teenager I probably wouldn't be alive today. I used video games as a coping mechanism to dissociate from my gender dysphoria and (at the time) unsupportive family that I was hiding in the closet from. It wasn't what I would call healthy but I didn't exactly have a lot of other options.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, as teenagers high amounts of screen time is a symptom of other stuff, whether it's an abusive home situation or mental health issues, or something else

In addition to... What else is there to do as a teenager these days? Especially in a car-centric place?

Kids however probably should have screen time limited, and try to be engaged in other ways, especially their parents, however, many parents are not good parents