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[–] NounsAndWords 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Perhaps this will change in the future, but I think people don't realize the amount of effort needed to make AI write anything close to what you actually want and the inability to write a coherent plot for anything close to a novel sized output. Right now it's like using early 2000s Photoshop, yeah it can do some cool things, but don't trick yourself that you're not doing most of the actual work yourself still.
"Write X like author Y" gets you a word salad of phrases and common words from the author in question without actually getting the "feel."

[–] Warl0k3 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah seriously, the way AI is presented by the companies vs. what it actually can do is a pretty stark difference.

I write as a hobby and I've been trying out some AI writing aids just for the hell of it. There are a couple I quite like and which mimic my writing style almost creepily well, but they can't generate more than a sentence or two without falling into total gibberish. And even then, the coherent output they do provide still requires heavy editing to make it fit.

I'm quite enjoying the two, though. Its nice, when you've been stuck on one sentence or description for ten minutes, to have a button you can click that gives you something. I rarely wind up using the AI suggestion, but I've found it really helps to get some random outside stimulus. But that's kinda all it can do. The promises that it can make your work sound like it was written by Hemmingway or Prachett are at best wishful thinking, and it just can't write a novel for you yet, despite what these companies claim.

Idk, this is rambling on a bit so I'll cut it short: I think my point is that current AI is just another tool, and one that can be quite nice in certain circumstances once you've learned how to use it. And that the real root problem here is NaNoWriMo getting monetized by the silicon valley bastards association.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

How did they manage to make a shorted version of the name more kludgy than just saying the full name?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

@dgerard NaNoWriMo has become even less relevant somehow!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

@dgerard Not sure where else to post this, but I'll post it here since this may be related to this thread. Either your account is directly banned on Hachyderm now, or circumstances.run has been defederated. Not sure how all that works, but here's a screenshot of what your account looks like from a Hachyderm POV.

In case this doesn't translate to Lemmy, it says your account is suspended.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

thanks for the notice! I’ll make sure David sees this and do some poking around as well. by any chance, were you able to see if any other circumstances.run accounts show the same error?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

@self I don't think I follow anyone else on circumustances.run. If you have one handy, would you post another account name from that instance and I'll take a look?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@[email protected] is the instance admin (also on this instance as @[email protected]) so they’re probably the best account to check

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@self Okay, mawhrin's account is viewable from Hachyderm (https://hachyderm.io/@[email protected]). So looks like it's specific to Gerard.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@self Gerard's page, for comparison: https://hachyderm.io/@[email protected]

Not sure if these pages render different if you're not logged in.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

huh, for me (not logged in) David’s account is viewable via that link — that’s really bizarre. I’ll do a little more digging when I can!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

@self Just did a quick test, and at least for me when I am logged in it shows the account as suspended, but when I look at that same link in a private tab it immediately redirects to the circumstances.run instance and shows the account info there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Keep in mind that it redirects to circumstances.run if you visit the account page, I don't know why it still does that when the account is suspended, it was supposed to show you a page saying it redirects. Maybe it's a bug on mastodon. If I search for davidgerard on hachyderm it says he's suspended.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

are we about to find out the hachyderm board/steering group/whatever are involved in the nanowrimo ai shit? I recall a bit about some previous dumb shit about a bunch of the people in the foundation, think it was coiner noise with a dash of ai hyping iirc?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

eh, their loss, my account is where it's at for quality tech ranting. hachyderm is a bit like programming.dev but for mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@dgerard As long the ranting continues unabated on awful.systems, I suppose it's nothing to get annoyed about.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

if you can't see my stuff on hachyderm worth a complaint to your admins? or find a host less interested in protecting you from malign influences whether you like it or not

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

@dgerard I think that all depends on whether or not my curiosity is strong enough to overcome my sense that sending a message to a Mastodon admin team about why the writer who inadvertently got Elon Musk and Grimes to hook up is banned on my server would be too-online a thing to do, even for me. So, yeah, I'll probably end up doing that around 2:00 a.m. this morning.

[–] Feathercrown 2 points 2 weeks ago

This is like the worst possible decision they could have made

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