whoa, miles!
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"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.
micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"
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an n where n not in {-1,1} miles... what's a mile :P
That implies at least 2!
750W, 48V hub motor
864Wh li-ion battery
45kmh top speed
55mi range
44kg weight
440lb capacity
Hydraulic front fork
Hysraulic disc brakes
20in wheels
3in tires
Alu frame
includes a fender, rack, headlight, "braking tallight", with rear signals
$1500 list (excluding a current $100 discount)
Can be specd higher at additional cost.
Need to mix in a few more unit systems in there. How many hands tall is it?
I also thought it was odd they flip-flopped back and forth lol
That's super cheap. Urban Arrows are like $5k+.
I'm not sure they're very comparable. This is just a step-through e-bike with a rack whereas the Urban Arrows are legitimate true-to-name cargo bikes.
When the design is changed so drastically there isn't a lot of opportunity to use off-the-shelf parts to keep costs low.
Also Urban Arrow does self-identify as "top-of-the-line".
I actually quite like the look of it. I wish they had a clear photo of someone riding it so we could see the proportions better.
That said, it seems really heavy for its size, at 88lbs with one battery installed. Also, only 50-mile range with one battery at the lowest assist level is not great, but understandable given its torque and hauling capacity.
Picture 3/6 on the site show 2 people standing next to them picture 2/6 shows it from the back with someone riding but chops out most of what you may have wanted to see.
Ah, yes! Another highly complex ebike designed to carry massive loads, but we'll give you a 1-year warranty. /s
When will ebike companies stop treating their products like toys and start acting like they are selling vehicles?
5–10 year warranties should be the minimum for an ebike. And the frames should always be a lifetime warranty.
It's a usd1.5k bicycle though, the warranty reflect the price.
This is the Urban Arrow Cargo Bike warranty and it's a usd7k. Here's the Riese & Muller ebike warranty, it's a usd10k cargo bike and the warranty reflect it.
You can't really expect a cheaply build cargo bike that's also sold cheaply to give you a 5 years warranty. The same thing happened to car as well.
I actually believe that nearly all e-bikes have crappy warranties. The "best" that I've seen is Tern, and they give you 10 years.
But I go back to my original point: If these companies are serious about selling vehicles, they really need to have more confidence and offer more generous warranties.
If they are treating these bikes as disposable, then cheap or not, they are going to be viewed as toys.
Sure, the electronics and battery can be 2 -5 years, because they aren't expected to last a lifetime, but 1 year on a frame is a joke.
I wouldn't haul 400lbs on a frame that the manufacturer isn't even confident about.
So one American.
Give or take.