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What is the best way to mark an inactive bus stop? (self.openstreetmap)

submitted 2 months ago by BitSound to c/[email protected]

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I've encountered a bus stop that still exists, but has a sign from the city saying that no busses stop there. There's the disused tag on the wiki which seems relevant, but I'm not sure how to tag it exactly. There's lots of tags like ref, route_ref, operator:wikidata and so on. Should all of those tags get prefixed with disused:?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Should all of those tags get prefixed with disused:?

I think not. It’s been a little bit since I’ve studied or used the disused:* prefix, but I believe it’s only needed on the main feature tag. (citation needed, ofc)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Wiki examples show added to multiple tags:

disused:amenity=pub
disused:operator=The Oxford Pub Company
name=Fox & Hounds

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix#Examples

disused:amenity=parking
disused:capacity=20

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:disused#Comparison_of_disused=yes_vs_disused:key=*_namespace

My habit is to add it to main tags only, if there are more main tags add it to all of them, but nothing else. Renderer should get from this it's disused, adding it to operator or capacity shouldn't matter, but it will be more work to change them back when it becomes used again. Changing more tags are more error prone.

I would tag a disused bus stop this way:

disused:public_transport=platform
disused:highway=bus_stop
name=*
operator=*
shelter=*
...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I agree, disused: should be only used on the main feature tag.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

i'm no expert — consensus sounds like putting disused only on the main tag, and when i've encountered this, i haven't marked anything disused at all. i've only looked at the stop/platform to make sure they weren't in any relation (transit line relations may include the passing way but shouldn't include the disused stop/platform). and i make sure route_ref isn't set on the stop/platform. were the stop to be used again, i figure it would have the same ref/stop id and operator, so i don't remove them. listening for better ideas though