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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Just what I always wanted: letting Google listen in on my phone calls.

[–] frunch 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They probably are already Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I doubt it. It would be really obvious because of the extra data traffic. People who go bananas if they found out Google chews through their monthly plan to exfiltrate audio.

Although Google (and Apple, and all the others) are working hard to embed AI onto your cellphone, not for your own convenience but to implement client-side surveillance - i.e. digest what you see and do and distill the surveillance data on your device before it even hits the internet - so that the surveillance doesn't attract undue attention.

But we're not there quite yet, and I don't believe even Google could get away with real, proper audio surveillance today.

That's probably the reason why they want to create this bogus "note taking" service: to have a legitimate excuse to listen in on your audio.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

But with this new tech things are easier isn't it. They just need to transfer just bytes of data and they will get the important bits of the call.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is "Google" your Android phone? If so, "Google" has always been "listening" to your calls. This is nothing new, just your phone getting more helpful. Big "old man yells at cloud" energy here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I believe most of these transcribers run local.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Aren't there laws in place about consent and recording phone calls specifically?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Newsflash: Big Data is above the law. Didn't you know?

They'll spin it as a "service" to the user and carve out an exemption that way. And 10 or 15 years down the line, you'll hear your own words spat back at you by a fucking chatbot, but it'll be too late by then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Newsflash: Big tech is ~~above~~ the law

FTFY (I'd add a smiling emoji, but nothing to really smile about)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

A lot of the tweens posting here act like that's literally true.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I live in Australian state that has two party consent for recording of phone calls, I’d love to see the legal decision that would come from this sort of recording but not keeping audio type of call record. It’d be interesting, I think.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Depends on the location. Some places you can’t record without other’s consent and some you can.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

gross more spyware like windows recall

[–] bookcrawler 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bit torn. This would be amazing when I'm a bit deaf (screw you pollen season). But where is this being transcribed? I strongly suspect that even if it's done phone side Google will send a recording and the text output to home base for "training" purposes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's certainly going to be done on device. Existing pixels can already do this with Live Captions

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Absolutely fucking not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Wasn't call recording a standard feature in Android years ago before being removed? Then Google shutdown all third-parrty recorders a couple of years ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah. Back in the day I used to use BoldBeast call recorder. Now I use Basic Call Recorder (BCR) on my Android phone and it auto-records every call perfectly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Woohoo! More training data to AI overlords. (Consent on by default of course)

[–] gedaliyah 4 points 3 months ago

Cool cool cool cool cool cool cool.