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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/18014226

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[–] Potatisen 72 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did anyone expect differently?

[–] drawerair 1 points 5 months ago

These news articles support my idea that Google doesn't care re privacy. I've been using a Samsung phone, which has Android. Android has permissions re cam, location, πŸŽ™ and others, but I won't be :o if Google can bypass all the privacy features if it wants my data.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Weird. The original article says "accused", but on Lemmy they're already found guilty.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (4 children)

This isn't a court of law, or the privatized forced mandatory arbitration that has mostly replaced it.

Out of curiosity, in your view, what has Google done to deserve the benefit of the doubt?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

That the person who reported it used a ML to try and find the setting to attempt to solve it, did not fill me with confidence of their abilities to manage this. They later admitted that they did have it enabled in some form.

They also never became specific about how well Gemini interpreted their tax result file. Did it give the proper number verbatim? That's pretty damming. Did it just reply "You're not getting a tax return"? That's just 50/50 odds.

[–] QuadratureSurfer 1 points 5 months ago

I would much rather users on here not manipulate titles to make it sound worse than what the actual article is claiming. It's intentionally misleading.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

Every entity has the right of benefit of the doubt. Even if they are the worst entity known.

[–] Odo 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Check the URL. The site clearly changed the headline after OP posted.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Good find, that explains.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago

Frankly I'm surprised its without permission. Throw that shit in the ToS right next to the part about Google having permission to kiss my mom whenever they want - nobody's going to read it and the TOS for Google drive already allow them to look at user content.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I bet it’s scanning your emails too

[–] essteeyou 9 points 5 months ago

Of course. There's a reason Gmail has always been free, and it's not out of the goodness of their hearts.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

This makes a lot of sense. The fuel for AI is data and there is sooo much non public data.

Google is behind but they have loads of user data, the temptation would be too great for a company that no longer had a β€œdon’t be evil” value.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

This includes paying users? I wonder how that works for doctors offices that have paid subscriptions and maybe store sensitive data on those servers? That would be a stupid idea, of course, but still, a lot of smaller practices don't really have a good it guy that can help them do things right

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

They should blame the AI, saying it's going rogue, but without citizenship we can't prosecute the AI, so we should give them citizenship, and then suddenly we are equals, lol!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

There are two different ways how this can be implemented. Either data in Google Drive is being used as training material or Gemini is reading the drive data on users request as part of the prompt and not being used as training data.

Second one is way different, because it does not expose the data to third party. Copilot has been doing this for a year now.

I assume that is the second way

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I'm tired of this wo-orld

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

The only thing I use google drive for is backups. Let's see them doing anything with an encrypted archive.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Who would have thought , hein ?!!!