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[–] FlyingSquid 45 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You'd hate everything too if you were forced to stay in the closet by an asshole TV executive from 200 years in your past.

[–] negativenull 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fuck Rick Berman (if that needs to be said again)

[–] rivr 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can you expand on this, is the actor gay, or a theory about the character?

I kinda half watched Enterprise and for a lot of it I was horribly sick... So my recollection is bad.

[–] FlyingSquid 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He was supposed to be queer, but Rick Berman is a massive homophobe, so he didn't allow it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Like most trek actors, Keating just played him as gay regardless.

Except for mirror!Reed, who was extra gay

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He played him as gay, but his character wasn't gay in any way it would have really mattered. That's not his fault, and I hope at least a few queer Trekkies realized what he was trying to do and felt like they could identify with him, but Berman had to be kicked to the curb before characters in Star Trek that weren't "mirror" characters or Trill that are definitely still male in terms of their relationship with a woman even if they identify as female or whatever excuse they wanted to make rather than have real queer representation and that was more my point.

Don't get me wrong, I'm overjoyed that characters like Stamets and Culber exist in Star Trek today, but it took way too long.

And, thinking on it, if you do want to argue that Malcolm was gay but closeted, since he claimed he was attracted to women and only discussed and was shown to have had hetero urges and desires, that suggests a less bright future than Star Trek suggests we have, and I don't like that either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Idk, Reed was messed up in a lot of ways (and it was proto Federation) so even if you play with that angle it's not a reflection on chronologically later trrek series.

I mean half of earth in ENT was xenophobic as hell as well, does that condemn the rest of trek?

We are being terrible though and forgetting Vilix'pran, who not only canonically gave birth several times during DS9's run, but he also got a promotion so six kids ain't messing up his career. Also the crew were very invested in his family.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

but - for some reason - loves pineapple

[–] TheGrandNagus 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's a pretty good fruit tbf

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

sure, but after spending the entire episode making a huge production about how he doesn't particularly like anything, it's nonsense for him to love something that everyone likes.

[–] CptEnder 4 points 5 months ago

S-tier fruit.

[–] aeronmelon 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe he just hates Malaysia.

Maybe he should have joined the Earth Navy instead, you know, seen other places.

[–] teft 16 points 5 months ago

Maybe he should have joined the Earth Navy instead,

Did Malcolm's dad post this?