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I switched away from Twitter for all the problems since Musk took over and there is no end in sight as their revenues continue to crumble, moderation and infrastructure breaks down and so on.

Mastodon feels very mature on the provided functionality level, but lacks in many areas.

When to expect a proper inclusion of algorithms? For example I like some accounts, but they flood my timeline into unusability due to high post frequency.

I was trying to search for more news with the #reddit hashtag and get mostly shown irrelevant gonewild posts.

I prefer the Elk UI for various reasons as it seems to be more mature. However trends, hashtags, especially clustered by countries or language is inaccessible on it and the popularities what the hot topics are never feel right, missing out on usable information.

There is a lack of focus on the like button, leaving a lot of engagement and interesting stuff on the table. I do not quite understand why reposts only function as a boost instead of a possible accompanied comment.

As Twitter has still the primary status, many official accounts of companies simply do not exist on Mastodon. Sometimes entire communities are still strongly tied to Twitter and one can only hope to catch crossposts from the birdsite on it.

But I do not see myself on Twitter anymore, because the content is overall quality wise up there and just about broad enough to feel informed about random happenings in the world.

What is your future outlook for Mastodon?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Algorithms in Mastodon are rather unlikely, for a couple of reasons.

  1. There is no central view. Your home instance could only work on what it can see, so either toots originating there or by someone followed from it.
  2. The dev behind Mastodon already stated he doesn't want algorithms.

I personally like it that way. I prefer that it feels like a Social Network, not something harvesting my attention. My algorithm for finding new accounts to follow are the recommendations of those I'm already following based on their retoots, as I trust that judgement more than that of some unclear algorithm that can be played by clever keywords.

[–] Aurix 1 points 1 year ago

Algorithms are required either way. You know what will happen when Mastodon dominates and no solution is brought up for transparent algorithms?

There will be secondary accounts "pre-posting" to harvest engagement data and then schedule posts at perfect times in their main accounts. Of course only few will be able to do that, and it would blast the platform into Facebook.

Because too active accounts have to be muted, accounts posting only sometimes very useful information will get buried.

The simplest of algorithms to prevent post floods are absolutely required.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I’ve noticed some of the same issues as you. I was never a big Twitter user other than following sports journalists for news and none of them have moved. Twitter didn’t start with big names either though so hopefully Mastodon continues to grow until it eventually can draw some bigger accounts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I like twitter, but it has issues. I've tried joining mastodon a few times but could never get into it. idk what it was, maybe a combination of the confusing instances, the weird ui they have, and the difficulty of finding the stuff I used twitter for?

Ironically I'm interacting with mastodon posts far more now on kbin than I ever did on mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I solved that “gone wild” problem simply by muting that account. After that my #reddit search started working as intended.

Speaking of searches, I’m really interested in a bunch of topics, so making certain searches frequently seems like the only way to see interesting stuff on Mastodon. So far, I haven’t figured out how to make a specific feed for specific hashtags. Actually, I think I need like 10 feeds for different purposes. Since I haven’t found a way to do that, there’s not much to read on Mastodon unless I do specific searches deliberately.

I don’t really care about people, so following them never really made much sense to me. I have found some people I almost care about, so I followed them, but now my feed is full of stuff that I might care about only a few times a year. Did I say there’s hardly anything to read on Mastodon?

I tried following some news on Mastodon, but there are some accounts that post stuff every 20 minutes, so now I have a feed with 99% of the content is taken over by a single account. I wish there was a way to group these accounts so that all the news stuff would be in one place and all the FOSS people are in another place. There has got to be a way to make this work, but I just haven’t figured it out yet.

[–] 0485919158191 3 points 1 year ago

I switched to Mastodon simply because I really enjoy the concept of the fediverse. The internet should be a free and open space for anyone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Never liked Twitter-style platforms where the focus is on following individuals instead of topics. While I don't like algorithms for advertising and engagement, some level of filtering posts is necessary for a Twitter-style platform because a lot of people use one account for everything and there isn't a good way to sort interesting posts and junk status updates. I have accounts on the microblog side of the Fediverse but the amount of junk in my feed is so much that I don't use the accounts.

[–] wispydust517 2 points 1 year ago

I really love Mastodon, but I'm seriously missing Twitter's search. It's nice to search terms and see how people are talking about (something specific). Mastodon only allows searching by hashtags.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Mastodon has seen a renewed enthusiasm with reddit folks as of late - I enjoy the slight rebound and hope we continue to grow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If you didn't enjoy fb or twitter then mastodon isnt the right ux for hou