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This is part 1 of an ongoing investigative series.

An algorithm, not a doctor, predicted a rapid recovery for Frances Walter, an 85-year-old Wisconsin woman with a shattered left shoulder and an allergy to pain medicine. In 16.6 days, it estimated, she would be ready to leave her nursing home.

On the 17th day, her Medicare Advantage insurer, Security Health Plan, followed the algorithm and cut off payment for her care, concluding she was ready to return to the apartment where she lived alone. Meanwhile, medical notes in June 2019 showed Walter’s pain was maxing out the scales and that she could not dress herself, go to the bathroom, or even push a walker without help.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Dan McQuillan has been warning about this since forever, to the point where I would've assumed that he'd be referenced if not interviewed int his article, though he wasn't. Here's a pretty short one from him. His basic argument is that AI is best understood as algorithmic Thatcherism, in which they'll silicon-wash the same austerity politics that neoliberalism has been feeding us forever.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

AI is being used as a means of diverting blame from humans onto a black box. It's not inherently bad of itself, but the current hype around it is allowing it to be used in ways it shouldn't be.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Somehow I missed this piece, thanks for sharing — as someone whose family used to be miners, I'll never pass up an opportunity to bitch about Thatcher

[–] 1800doctorb 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is one of the most annoying (dangerous in this case) trends of the AI rush. It has potential for incredible value, but that only depends on the people instituting it and the structures they have in place to ensure it’s successful.

I could see a world where the algorithm could receive input on the patients condition each day and modify its recommendations on that; like a Bayesian inference model. But that requires a statistician with some careful thought to set it all up, and executives wouldn’t be able to reduce headcount by several dozen because some guy sold them a black box that solves all their problems.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

depends on the people instituting it and the structures they have in place to ensure it’s successful.

Oh I'm pretty sure THEY view it as a success. Old folks with large medical bills dying? That's a feature, not a bug.

[–] barsquid 6 points 4 months ago

Luckily Repubs have staunchly defended our rights to choose which Death Panel denies our care.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Unfortunately, AI in current media is a catch-all term that applies to anything more complicated than a switch statement. (And sometimes even that)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

At this point I wouldn't be surprised to see people calling something as basic as a bash script that adds 2 numbers AI due to lack of actual understanding of what AI is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I legitimately had someone pitch an idea for an AI that could've just been a 15min bash adventure lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

there are rice cookers and other appliances that advertise ai features with no explanation, and when you take them apart they are literally the same as the standard version.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

The sad part is that they're probably more expensive than the standard version, but marketing teams are using the AI hype bubble to trick ignorant consumers to believe that the AI appliance that has no differences is somehow better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Some weigh the clothes and adjust the wash time or prolong the centrifuge cycle if the clothes are still too wet (not sure if this is using the scale or the water flow)...BOOM comes with AI now :D at this point we need certification labels to end this bullshit.