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Southern California. It jumps. Lost legs unfortunately trying to catch it. Released outside.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Cheiracanthium mildei would be my guess. But those usually don't jump. (Hard to tell/ not an expert)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Yes, that would be my 2nd guess. And it's very close.

[–] venusaur 1 points 4 months ago

That’s looks a lot like it, but a smaller one than pictures. The abdomen was pretty small, but those long fat ended pedipalps look similar. Sounds like they’re not deadly but painful bite and they do bite when handled so glad I didn’t take a chance. Thanks for the help!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

~~From the general shape and leg proportion I'd guess something in Tetragnathidae~~. Though that doesn't really fit with jumping.

But a better picture would be needed for a proper ID.

More likley to the Cheiracanthium sp.

[–] venusaur 2 points 4 months ago

Thanks. Yeah I couldn’t get a better pic unfortunately. It does look like some of the pics of that species definitely “long-jawed”. Long pedipalps.

[–] Paraponera_clavata 1 points 4 months ago

I agree it looks like tetragnathid too. Def a male, won't be able to ID it much more than that without a microscope.

It's absolutely harmless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] venusaur 2 points 4 months ago

Sorry Max. I hope they grow their legs back and soon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The size and color make me think “black footed yellow sac spider”, a.k.a. Cheiracanthium Inclusum, but those aren’t known to jump. They can be quick runners though.

[–] venusaur 1 points 4 months ago

Woah it looks just like it. I think it might have been a juvenile one

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Identified as a silly little guy

[–] venusaur 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah looks like the pics online

[–] j4k3 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wolf spider most likely. Which? I have no clue. I see them all the time too. Their bites last a month or more when I've gotten bitten.

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_spider

[–] venusaur 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Thanks! I’ll take a look again. The wolf spider pics I saw looked like tarantulas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Oh you're in for a fun spider fact now!

In German (and probably more European languages) we have a spider called the "Tarantel" (Lycosa tarantula) which is one of the largest wolf spiders (and just general largest spider) in Europe.

So the entire family of tarantulas (in English) got their name from a wolf spider initially. Probably named by European explorers that didn't know any better

[–] venusaur 1 points 4 months ago

Woah! That’s a big spider but looks kinda cute haha. Thanks for the fun fact.

[–] j4k3 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I got bitten by a couple of these in San Clemente, caught one and brought it to someone at UC Irvine, back when there was a Bike Religion store on campus and I was they Buyer for the chain. They said it was a wolf spider. I was told there is a good bit of variance in the species that can make them difficult to identify further, but they are common to SoCal.

[–] venusaur 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What happened to the bite? Just painful or any necrotic flesh or other symptoms?

[–] j4k3 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just painful, but deeply so. It looked about like a mosquito bite, but under the surface it went deeper and impacted muscles to a minor extent for around a month. I was commuting full time by bicycle and it had noticeable effects.

[–] venusaur 2 points 4 months ago

Damn. Don’t wanna get bit by one of these

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I was told there is a good bit of variance in the species that can make them difficult to identify further, but they are common to SoCal.

That's all correct. Wolf spiders are the second biggest family of spiders after the jumping spiders. And they are pretty much common in every part of the world that has spiders.

And while they are incredibly diverse within their family, the family itself is quite easy to identify (with only a few other families being false postives, like the aptly named false wolf spiders).

That said, while the OP's picture isn't good enough for an ID, you can rule out a lot of what it isn't and that includes wolf spiders. Their legs are usually more stumpy and don't reach the proportions of the front legs shown in the picture.

[–] venusaur 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What do you think it might be then? Thanks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

See the other top level comments.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] venusaur 2 points 4 months ago

If it weren’t for those long pedipalps I would have been so concerned with touching it.