How about no?
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Instead of wanting some sort of peace...
It seems you are stuck supporting a war that has killed the young of [the] Ukrainian people.
It is sad that they have also become another pawn in a US Military Chess game of endless wars for profit.
Oh I want peace. The kind where the aggressor, Russia, fucks off back to its own country and leaves Ukraine alone.
US Military had nothing to do with starting this situation. We're just giving weapons to the guy the bully is picking on.
Russia, fucks off back to its own country and leaves Ukraine alone.
Also there definitively needs to be a DMZ but one that's fully on Russian and Belarusian soil.
Well, east Ukraine was already in a civil war, 2014 coup also happened if I remember correctly, from the non status quo information that commentators talk about.
Ukraine is another puppet of the US Military and NATO, we are the ones that are funding their gov't and weapons. Without US/NATO Ukraine would not have held out so long.
Regime change wars do not work or help the situation, it in fact makes them worse off, look at Latin America and the Middle East regions for mulitple examples, you can even look at Africa for more examples.
Civil war, hahahaha give me a break. That was all Russia.
Stop replying, I'm not buying any of your propaganda. I am actually an American who has BEEN to Ukraine, right before Putin's bullshit kicked off in 2014 in fact. So you can't lie to me and expect me to believe it out of ignorance.
I watch commentators that live in Russia and have family in Ukraine...
I am showing you what the non status quo view is, many people are seeing the US military and western propaganda view points.
It is seen by some as another endless war where the working class is dying for the owner class profits.
No one here is trying to lie or say something that is untrue, we are just getting our information from different sources.
I suggest to also check out independent journalists and commentators, we must force ourselves to take in bias information even if we do not think or agree with it, being in bubbles do not help us.
No war, but the Class War!
Oh, this info is from 08/11/2022.
It will not happen anymore, Diem25 would have to update their points, Russia has the bigger hand in peace negotiations, it seems they want to keep the land they continue to win.
Here are the DiEM25 old 5 points:
Here are the 5 Our five-point peace plan calls for:
- An immediate ceasefire to be followed by a rapid withdrawal of Russian troops behind the 24-2-2022 border line
- The creation of a fully demilitarised zone, 200km on each side of the 24-2-2022 border line, to be monitored by means jointly agreed
- A mutual non-aggression protocol based on the recognition that Ukraine is a sovereign, militarily neutral country that allows no nuclear weapons on its territory
- A governance structure for the Eastern and Southern areas of Ukraine based on the Northern Ireland Good Friday Agreement to ensure political equality between the Russian and Ukrainian speaking communities
- All parties agree to refer outstanding disputes pre-existing the 24-02-2022 invasion to UN facilitated negotiations